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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4740688, member: 96900"]@<font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/rrdenarius.75525/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/rrdenarius.75525/">rrdenarius</a></b></font></p><p><font size="4"><b>"</b></font>I bought a coin sold as an "ancient" counterfeit of an EID-MAR. It does not match any of the known dies -> it was not produced by Brutus. Could it be 2000 years old? That is harder to tell, at best maybe. I purchased the coin from a reputable dealer who bought it from an established auction house and it has a provenance back to 1947. "</p><p><br /></p><p>It is a modern Bulgarian fake from modern hand cut dies and maybe 10 years old or less. The pedigree is as fake as the coin !</p><p>Do you have more information about the pedigree?</p><p>The coin is obviously modern, the style and the very bad altering gives it away, they applied cuts at the edge and artificial wear to distract but it is condemning and not convincing.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/Denarius-BRUTUS-42BC-SILBER/133492458610?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170511121231%26meid%3De54036d1deee46f3a6412be3221eec1d%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D133492458610%26itm%3D133492458610%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae4192e10-dda1-11ea-bea8-74dbd1808523%7Cparentrq%3Ae9779e131730ad4cf479bdecfffff15a%7Ciid%3A1&autorefresh=true" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/Denarius-BRUTUS-42BC-SILBER/133492458610?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170511121231%26meid%3De54036d1deee46f3a6412be3221eec1d%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D133492458610%26itm%3D133492458610%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae4192e10-dda1-11ea-bea8-74dbd1808523%7Cparentrq%3Ae9779e131730ad4cf479bdecfffff15a%7Ciid%3A1&autorefresh=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.de/itm/Denarius-BRUTUS-42BC-SILBER/133492458610?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20170511121231&meid=e54036d1deee46f3a6412be3221eec1d&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=133492458610&itm=133492458610&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:e4192e10-dda1-11ea-bea8-74dbd1808523|parentrq:e9779e131730ad4cf479bdecfffff15a|iid:1&autorefresh=true</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Same seller Gordian Africanus fake from modern dies</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/DENARIUS-GORDIAN-I-AFRICANVS-SILVER/133492461221?hash=item1f14c54ea5:g:Q1sAAOSwGYNfNTyZ" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/DENARIUS-GORDIAN-I-AFRICANVS-SILVER/133492461221?hash=item1f14c54ea5:g:Q1sAAOSwGYNfNTyZ" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.de/itm/DENARIUS-GORDIAN-I-AFRICANVS-SILVER/133492461221?hash=item1f14c54ea5:g:Q1sAAOSwGYNfNTyZ</a></p><p><br /></p><p>His Otho and Vespasian are cast fakes all others are Bulgarian fakes from modern dies, most of them are already published at forgerynetwork or fake reports.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1159014[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4740688, member: 96900"]@[SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/rrdenarius.75525/']rrdenarius[/URL][/B] [B]"[/B][/SIZE]I bought a coin sold as an "ancient" counterfeit of an EID-MAR. It does not match any of the known dies -> it was not produced by Brutus. Could it be 2000 years old? That is harder to tell, at best maybe. I purchased the coin from a reputable dealer who bought it from an established auction house and it has a provenance back to 1947. " It is a modern Bulgarian fake from modern hand cut dies and maybe 10 years old or less. The pedigree is as fake as the coin ! Do you have more information about the pedigree? The coin is obviously modern, the style and the very bad altering gives it away, they applied cuts at the edge and artificial wear to distract but it is condemning and not convincing. [URL='https://www.ebay.de/itm/Denarius-BRUTUS-42BC-SILBER/133492458610?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170511121231%26meid%3De54036d1deee46f3a6412be3221eec1d%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D133492458610%26itm%3D133492458610%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae4192e10-dda1-11ea-bea8-74dbd1808523%7Cparentrq%3Ae9779e131730ad4cf479bdecfffff15a%7Ciid%3A1&autorefresh=true']https://www.ebay.de/itm/Denarius-BRUTUS-42BC-SILBER/133492458610?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20170511121231&meid=e54036d1deee46f3a6412be3221eec1d&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=133492458610&itm=133492458610&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:e4192e10-dda1-11ea-bea8-74dbd1808523|parentrq:e9779e131730ad4cf479bdecfffff15a|iid:1&autorefresh=true[/URL] Same seller Gordian Africanus fake from modern dies [URL]https://www.ebay.de/itm/DENARIUS-GORDIAN-I-AFRICANVS-SILVER/133492461221?hash=item1f14c54ea5:g:Q1sAAOSwGYNfNTyZ[/URL] His Otho and Vespasian are cast fakes all others are Bulgarian fakes from modern dies, most of them are already published at forgerynetwork or fake reports. [ATTACH=full]1159014[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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