the native american $1 is official

Why do you insist on blaming the Mint for obeying the laws Congress passes and the President signs?

 

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Starting in 2009 Sackie dollar coins will have a diifferent "Native American" reverse design each year. Proof, UNC & any made for circulation. The mintages will be 20% of the total dollar coin production so we should be able to get rolls at the banks just like we do the President coins.

 

Cool. We need another dollar coin:smile

 

First, welcome to the forum.

Now could you please elaborate on your statement? Exactly why do we need anther dollar coin?

 

Honontai, when I refer to "the Mint" it is for the entire system/process of making, ok'ing and all of the various branches of government and laws to be written and groups involved with coming up with the designs and whatever, I do not claim to know the entire process and in a way it does not matter because politics does drive the process.

So, I just use the term "the Mint" for a central scapegoat.That is all.

You are right though, and I'm sure I disagree with your point of view but "the Mint" has to follow the politically correct dog of the day, and you can disagree all you want but it is true.

One example is the SBA dollar, it appeared because of the times of womens lib and a very liberal President just happened to be in office at the time, Reagan comes in and from what I understand, I admit I don't know who in the chain but "the Mint" squashed that piece of work. Politically motivated, maybe. The reason always given was 'it looks like a quarter' but it didn't go away until Reagan came in.

Same can be said for a hundred years ago, Teddy Roosevelt was the force for change, although I'm sure he didn't write the laws.

I'm glad someone agrees with some of my points(Philly Dog), wholesale change needs to be made and ironically a bunch of the coins mentioned came about closer to Teddy Roosevelts life than mine today.

 

I'm in the same camp as well Lemmyk,

My original post was not about Congress although I know that's where it "starts" as it were.

My post concerned "insulting" the Native Americans once again. If we are to have true "Native American Dollars" they should be designed by TRUE Native Americans.

I may be pushing the "politics and religion" boundries here but so be it.

In God We Trust does not mean a lot to a "non-converted" Native American. They have a vastly different believe system and it worked quite well actually. E Pluribus Unum doesn't really apply either. Don't think too many Native Americans were speaking Latin before foreigners landed on the shores.


My stepmother was Sioux raised on a reservation. She and my father (of German decent) "converted" as it were. His idea I can assure you. When she went to see the "Great White Buffalo" in Wisconsin many years ago he was incensed.

Of course he was, it wasn't their religion. What does the "Great White Buffalo" stand for? Peace among nations - now there's a horrible concept.

If Congress and the Mint want to truly represent Native Americans then they should let them TRULY design the coins. Would probably be a much bigger hit anyway and possibly teach some people some real history.

Mods, edit if you must. Had to get it off my chest as it were.

clembo

 

Thanks, It's good to be here.
I'm thinking we only have 27 this year. If we drop the 5 SBA's next year and only pick up 10 or 12 new ones the following year things will be about right for the times.

 

I believe I may actually understand you on that one. Go figure.

 

I don't. SBA's haven't been minted since 1999. Are you calling for them to be recalled?

 

Honestly I didn't even catch the SBA thing I caught the 27 number. I'm reading it as "Hey can we have any more types of dollars in circulation at the same time?"

Cripes! It will be 51 quarters before it's all said and done. Just how many coin designs do we need?

Just my take it on it Dockwalliper.

 

50 states, 6 territories, The origional Washington design, Bi-centenial design plus what ever they come up with for 2010.
I count 59.......but I've never had a problem spending any of them.

 

Seems we're on the same page here then.

 

The States quarters work because we use them daily.

I haven't seen a president dollar in circulation since I bought a few hundred Washintons to search through, kept some and spent the rest. The new Native American dollars will be hoarded and not widely used.

Most people would carry 15 or 20 dollar bills folded in their front pocket. Would you carry 15-20 dollar coins there?

Bruce

 

Seems like I make this point about dollar coins every time the subject comes up. NOW get ready for the flood of responses as to how many people will carry a bunch of them around.

P.S. I'm not one of them.

 

Sure, let's bring her back. She was such a great looking lady.

Sorry I messed up my other post. I was thinking Sac. and typed SBA.
I understood something got passed that would not require the mint to make the Sac. in 2008.

I made a poor attempt at being sarcastic about the number of dollar coins that are coming out. It is really crazy when you need a pencil and paper to figure out just how many there will be.

 

i was carrying 10 around the other day and it wasn't bad at all

 

No. That's what $5s, $10s and $20s are for.

But I would rather carry TWO $1 coins in my pocket than EIGHT quarters. A clad quarter weighs 5.67 g so eight quarters weigh 45.36 g. A golden dollar weighs 8.1 g so two golden dollars weigh 16.2 g. I don't know about you but I think it is a good thing anytime I can reduce the weight of the coins in my pocket by almost 2/3 (not to mention the reduction in volume) and still have the same totatl value.

Don't you love going to the car wash, putting a $5 bill in the coin changer and getting TWENTY quarters? Then, for a $3 car wash, you have the pleasure of feeding TWELVE quarters into a slot and pocketing the remaining EIGHT quarters. Personally, I would rather get FIVE $1 coins in change for my $5 bill, feed THREE $1 coins into the slot and have TWO $1 coins left over to carry in my pocket.

 

May as well jump in as I don't want to disappoint anyone.

Been doing a bit of "strap" searching as of late. It's like roll searching but involves currency for the uninformed.

Had to do a bit of shopping today. Hit three stores. Left my house with $119 in cash. Nothing larger than a five. $85 in fives and $34 in ones. It was not a strain on my wallet, my back pocket or my back.

Cashiers appreciated the smaller notes as it keeps them supplied with change for those that believe that larger denominations are the only way to go.

I rarely have denominations larger than a $20 note with me. Usually tens or less and it is absolutely NOT a problem as I rarely tote around over $200. If I DO have more cash on hand it means I am making a larger purchase and at that point larger denominations are quite handy.

Now for those that search dollar coins I ask you. If you find 5 coins worth keeping out of $119 do you just go out and shop with the remaining 114? Not saying I'd carry 114 singles around with me all day but I have done 50 notes on MANY occasions with no problem. Did it today if you think about it.

Until they ger rid of the $1 note (and as a currency collector as well as a coin collector I hope they never do) the mint/government needs to stpop wasting the effort on $1 coins.

To this day I have still NOT seen anything newer than a Sacagawea in circulation in my neck of the woods.

 

Why would anyone carry more than a couple singles at a time?
I keep all my folding money in my wallet and a few dollar coins in my pocket.
I don't know anyone that carries 15-20 singles in their front pocket or anywhere else for that matter. Too bulkie.

 

I haven't kept money in my wallet for well over 30 years. I keep my folding money in my front pants pocket in a money clip. My wallet is for my DL, CCs, customer loyalty cards, library card, etc. This is much more convenient and I feel it is more secure. (If a thug demands my wallet he gets my CCs - which I will promptly deactivate - but no money.