I personally like both blast white coins and coins with toning, but I am not willing to pay a premium for toned coins. Some of the monster toners I might even pass on, but most of the coins posted in this thread I definately wouldn't mind having in my collection.
Ehm...Ltrain's Morgan that he posted isn't artificially toned. That's why it made it's way into an NGC holder... By the way, blast white coins are almost always dipped. Which is more damaging, dipping, or corrosion?
Well, If it is true as the OP comments, that toned coins are damaged coins, one might be wise to not collect coins at all. Reason being, all coins over time, even those in the latest types of protective encapsulation, will eventually tone over time. It is a natural process . Natural Toning . AT coins on the other hand , should be considered " damaged " goods. I have had coins arrive directly from the U.S. Mint with shades of toning already in process , I would not consider those damaged coins , could you ?
No, it's not a no-brainer!! People as a whole are as individual as coins are! If you like bright white coins then good for you but if you like toned coins then good for you too. It's all about personal preference and there's nothing more to it than that. Damaged? Give me a break!!
Some of the pictures posted here are beautiful and I would pay more for those coins....however with toning the coin will normally continue to change over the years. I have seen some coins where the toning is so intense that it is harder to see the true coin, also where it becomes so spotty that it looks bad. I would be cautious to pay a premium for a coin that might change into something I really don't like.
What would these be worth if they weren't toned, hazed, marbled, iridescent, splotchy, or colored? Roman glass; Medieval weapons; Bronze artifacts; Wood furniture, wood artifacts, and wooden carvings; Copper lamps (Arts & Crafts period); Pewter pieces; Antique Bottles etc. etc. etc.
He wont get his rise out of me..........I suggest letting this jesters thread die and quit feeding him
Anything you can drum up a demand for with a limited supply will make you an honest dollar. It only becomes dishonest when you sell something other than your product. Beenie Babies were all the rage for a while and some got huge premiums in their 15 minutes of fame time. They were nothing more than cloth and stuffing, yet people demanded them and the price went up. Now some of the magnetic bracelet gimmicks are selling health rather than magnetic bracelets. That is dishonest because it makes dishonest claims. Toned coins I would put in the former category. I suspect that the deterioration begun which caused the toning will eventually make it look less appealing. After tone collections lose money because of corroding coins, the hot trend will cease. However; I could be wrong and I really hope they have a way to keep that from happening. My biggest problem is the twisted logic that indicates a coin toned in an album is natural toning and one toned by direct application of chemicals isn't. Neither is natural. The Hobo nickels and Penny Lady's Indian which has been edged show that not all post mint damage reduces value, though it IS a good rule of thumb. I'm just glad no one is trying to convince me that my Coppers aren't worthy because they've actually been used for the purpose for which they were made.
I clearly remember responding to a thread of his about this subject right after he joined the forum. I can't find that thread now. I wonder what happened to it. As for the OP, he is nothing more than a Weimar White drone. The idea that toned coins are damaged is a radical opinion that is not accepted by the Numismatic community. We should remember that on an online forum, one needs to consider the source of the information presented. In this case, the OP's claim to fame on this forum is a crazy thread about him burying his coin collection. I think that speaks volumes.
That statement says many different things to me but primarily it implies that toning progresses! "to the point it has turned black". So the question begs to be asked: "If toning progresses to the point of turning black, what stops this progression?
Sorry, just not this poster. Here are all 10 of the threads he started the earliest being 17 months after you joined (the month he joined); http://www.cointalk.com/search.php?searchid=55128
Wanna bet! He started the thread right after he got here. It got ugly and it got moved. Doug will have to settle the debate!