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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;John Burgess, post: 4862131, member: 105098&quot;]topic is &quot;The most legendary error ever&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;d have to say, hands down it&#039;s the 1943 bronze cent and anything else is lesser known/less &quot;legendary&quot;. I think we all as collectors know about this.&nbsp; there&#039;s a lot of contenders though but I think that one is the first and most legendary, most faked, and most known by collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>off on a tangent, apologies in advance. Stop reading here if you want to stick to the topic alone.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of coins can be considered errors, lets take the 1955 DDO as an example here, the doubling would qualify it for an error, however, it&#039;s long been established that it is a die variety, identifier of a specific die pair. like doubling on Morgan dollars really, die varieties, every coin struck with that die exhibits the same characteristics. </p><p><br /></p><p>Machine doubling is more of a hub chatter issue during the strike, a bit of shift happens, and sometimes it doesn&#039;t, something the machine doubling is present, sometimes it&#039;s not,&nbsp; it&#039;s more of a quality control issue though, and for that reason, not as desirable as a true doubled die (hub doubling) where it&#039;s been built into the working die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yeah, I&#039;m sure someone will pay something for anything on ebay and such though, it doesn&#039;t mean the extra claw alaska state quarter with the die chip is, or should be valuable, but it is collectible to someone I guess. Same goes for Homestead &quot;snow on roof&quot; or any of the other die deterioration, but heck people collect things, so I&#039;m sure a buck or two can be made off just about anything really. </p><p><br /></p><p>With the single squeeze hub making process started in 1997, A &quot;doubled die&quot;, real deal and impressive, is going to be really hard to come by. Still happens if the hub shifts during the single impression, but is&#039;t not like the wilder DDs of pre 1996. now a days they are only slightly off, usual toward the center of the coin and a slight shift when the working hub was made. </p><p><br /></p><p>But what do I know, I&#039;m still a novice myself that likes to read and there&#039;s a lot of misinformation out there nowadays. As I understand it, &quot;Doubled Die&quot; is working hub doubling. when the master hub impresses the working dies, it used to be done more than once if it was weak, and they would mark them to align them, but mistakes happened where it was out of alignment and impressed a bit &quot;off&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Single squeeze still has doubled dies, but they are minor, like the <i>2009 Formative Years Lincoln cent with the extra thumb, or <i> 2002-D 25¢ OH WDDO-001 doubled ear.. </i></i></p><p><i><i>99.9999% of the coins people think are error coins are not valuable.&nbsp; 99.9999% of the time the coin is either damaged after it left the mint (Post mint damage) or it had a manufacturer&#039;s defect.&nbsp; </i></i></p><p><i><i>Manufacturer&#039;s defect you say John???&nbsp; Yes, they don&#039;t make them perfect every single time, and so it is just a bad looking coin, not an error. Manufacturing errors, like machine doubling, striations, split plate doubling..... I like planchet striations, split plate doubling, cuds, rim burrs, all technically &quot;errors&quot; but, valuable? Nope. Manufacturing defects = bad looking coin.</i></i></p><p><i><i><br /></i></i></p><p><i><i>Anyways, I think if people are going to get into doubled dies, they should understand it, and that is done by reading everything about it. Knowing there are Class I to Class VIII doubled dies. and how they are created, and that,,,, it&#039;s actually doubling on the working die that is imparted to every coin struck with it. </i></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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