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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 8062836, member: 85693&quot;]Reviving this antique thread since information on coins of Topiros / Topirus is pretty scanty in general, and [USER=103829]@Jochen1[/USER] starts things off with a truly &quot;beautiful&quot; example.&nbsp; Mine too has a temple; the same one in the OP perhaps (but the pediments seem different)?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a cheapie from eBay that is not beautiful at all.&nbsp; But it has my first &quot;pseudo-countermark&quot; and it appears to be fairly scarce (my attribution notes give some indication of this).&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse type - Herakles sitting on a rock with a standing woman - is on several issues of Topirus.&nbsp; Sometimes in a temple, sometimes not.&nbsp; The woman is usually described as handing a bow to Herakles, but my only reference to mine says nothing about the bow (Moushmov), and I cannot see a bow on mine anyway.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/topiros/t.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/topiros/t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/topiros/t.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, here it is: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1397642[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Caracalla&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Æ 28</b></p><p><b>(c. 212-217 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Topirus, Thrace</b></p><p>AYT K M AYPH ANTΩNIN[OC], laureate head right / OYΛΠ[IAC TOΠI]POY, Tetrastyle temple with Herakles seated on a rock left, giving his hand to a woman standing right.</p><p>Moushmov 4981 (see notes).</p><p>(15.87 grams / 28 mm)</p><p>eBay Nov. 2021&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $5.50</p><p><b>Pseudo-Countermark:&nbsp; </b>AMP monogram in 6 mm circle obverse. Howgego 604.</p><p>&quot;Although seemingly a countermark, the monogram on the obverse of the present piece was in fact engraved on the original die, as is evidenced by the clear raised rim and the exact repetition of both location and design on other examples of</p><p>the type....&quot; Roma Numismatics</p><p><b>Host Coin Notes:</b>&nbsp; The type with Herakles and a woman (usually described as handing him a bow) is also found on Topirus issues of Geta and J. Domna, usually not in a temple.&nbsp; The only reference to Caracalla of this type is a brief note</p><p>in Wildwinds link to Moushmov:</p><p><b>&quot;4981: </b>Tetrastyle temple with Herakles seated on a rock left, giving his hand&nbsp; to a woman standing next to him.&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.moushmov.com/topiros.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.moushmov.com/topiros.html" rel="nofollow">www.moushmov.com/topiros.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I was unable to find any other listings, references or photos to Moushmov 4981; if anybody has seen another one, I&#039;d love to hear about it.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Any information about the woman giving Herakles a bow would be appreciated too.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>And of course anything from Topiros / Topirus.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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