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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 15515, member: 57463"]And, speaking of the $20 of Augustus Saint Gaudens, here is a picture of the statue that he cribbed the design from:</p><p><a href="http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/z/x/zxk105/group14/nike.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/z/x/zxk105/group14/nike.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/z/x/zxk105/group14/nike.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This statue was excavated only in the 1870s, I think, and was not widely known when Saint Gaudens used it first for his statue of General Sherman and then for his coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is a nice coin, but typical of American designs, it is a knock-off. In fact, most American coins are re-drawn Greek and Roman coins. If you take the "New Style Tetradrachm" of Athens ---</p><p><br /></p><p>(<a href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028.jpg" rel="nofollow">www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028.jpg</a>)</p><p>(<a href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028a.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028a.jpg" rel="nofollow">www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028a.jpg</a>)</p><p>among many others --- </p><p><br /></p><p>and change the helmet to a native American war bonnet, you have the same coin. The Large Cent, the Seateds, they are copies of coins that the US Mint has had in it own collection of ancients. In colonial times, educated people could read Greek and Latin and many of them owned classical coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Standing Liberty Quarter might have no predecessors.</p><p><br /></p><p>Barber's series is a direct copy of the contemporary French silver coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice coins, all of them, to be sure, but they seem astounding to us only in comparison to what we have now.</p><p><br /></p><p>Michael[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 15515, member: 57463"]And, speaking of the $20 of Augustus Saint Gaudens, here is a picture of the statue that he cribbed the design from: [url]http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/z/x/zxk105/group14/nike.html[/url] This statue was excavated only in the 1870s, I think, and was not widely known when Saint Gaudens used it first for his statue of General Sherman and then for his coin. It is a nice coin, but typical of American designs, it is a knock-off. In fact, most American coins are re-drawn Greek and Roman coins. If you take the "New Style Tetradrachm" of Athens --- ([url]www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028.jpg[/url]) ([url]www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/attica/athens/Thompson_028a.jpg[/url]) among many others --- and change the helmet to a native American war bonnet, you have the same coin. The Large Cent, the Seateds, they are copies of coins that the US Mint has had in it own collection of ancients. In colonial times, educated people could read Greek and Latin and many of them owned classical coins. The Standing Liberty Quarter might have no predecessors. Barber's series is a direct copy of the contemporary French silver coins. Nice coins, all of them, to be sure, but they seem astounding to us only in comparison to what we have now. Michael[/QUOTE]
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