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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2171555, member: 112"]So called "original" Morgan rolls have been discussed many times in the past. But there a few things that many people are not aware of that come up in those discussions. Like the fact that paper rolls were not even invented until the very late 1800s. And that even after their invention for the most part few if any ever used them until the 1930's - long after Morgans ceased being minted. So calling them "original rolls", well maybe they are and maybe they aren't. I could go buy a bunch of Morgans and roll them up today, and they would be "original rolls" because nobody had ever rolled them up before.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now that said, I used to buy rolls of Morgans at the bank back in the early 1960's, so yes rolls of Morgans absolutely did exist. Were they "original" ? Of course they were, that bank was the one who rolled them up. And yeah I know that for a fact because my aunt worked there, and if they didn't have any when I asked, she'd roll one up for me, right in front of my eyes.</p><p><br /></p><p>But in today's world, when sellers advertise these as being "original rolls" they are hoping, fervently, that potential buyers will assume they rolled up by some bank while Morgans were still being minted and used in everyday commerce. But is that necessarily the case ? Even though they do everything they can to try and give you that impression.</p><p><br /></p><p>Take this one for example - <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Unopened-20-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-Roll-Rainbow-Toned-1878-P-S-O-CC/141685294056?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D1160cb43075b451ebd7e4292ae9f810e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141689290407&rt=nc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Unopened-20-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-Roll-Rainbow-Toned-1878-P-S-O-CC/141685294056?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D1160cb43075b451ebd7e4292ae9f810e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141689290407&rt=nc" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Unopened-20-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-Roll-Rainbow-Toned-1878-P-S-O-CC/141685294056?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=20131003132420&meid=1160cb43075b451ebd7e4292ae9f810e&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=141689290407&rt=nc</a></p><p><br /></p><p>It sure looks old doesn't it ? But old can be faked, paper rolls that look old could have been made last week. And look at the pictures he provides, like this one - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEyOTc=/z/4sUAAOSwv0tVcQIc/$_57.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>- it says right on it that paper roll was patented in 1921. But just because the paper roll was patented in 1921, that does not mean the coins were put in it in 1921. They could have been put in it 10-20-maybe 50 or more years later. Maybe last week. </p><p><br /></p><p>But were they ? I dunno, I cannot say for certain either way. What I can say for certain is this - something is rotten Denmark ! Why ? Well look at that picture. In the bottom left it has $25 printed on it. But if you look closely, at the top left of the picture, you can just barely see where it says $20. And here's a better picture of it, also provided by the seller.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY0WDEzNjQ=/z/6a4AAOSwl8NVcQIt/$_57.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don't know about you, but something sure smells to me when I see things like that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2171555, member: 112"]So called "original" Morgan rolls have been discussed many times in the past. But there a few things that many people are not aware of that come up in those discussions. Like the fact that paper rolls were not even invented until the very late 1800s. And that even after their invention for the most part few if any ever used them until the 1930's - long after Morgans ceased being minted. So calling them "original rolls", well maybe they are and maybe they aren't. I could go buy a bunch of Morgans and roll them up today, and they would be "original rolls" because nobody had ever rolled them up before. Now that said, I used to buy rolls of Morgans at the bank back in the early 1960's, so yes rolls of Morgans absolutely did exist. Were they "original" ? Of course they were, that bank was the one who rolled them up. And yeah I know that for a fact because my aunt worked there, and if they didn't have any when I asked, she'd roll one up for me, right in front of my eyes. But in today's world, when sellers advertise these as being "original rolls" they are hoping, fervently, that potential buyers will assume they rolled up by some bank while Morgans were still being minted and used in everyday commerce. But is that necessarily the case ? Even though they do everything they can to try and give you that impression. Take this one for example - [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Unopened-20-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-Roll-Rainbow-Toned-1878-P-S-O-CC/141685294056?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D1160cb43075b451ebd7e4292ae9f810e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D141689290407&rt=nc[/url] It sure looks old doesn't it ? But old can be faked, paper rolls that look old could have been made last week. And look at the pictures he provides, like this one - [IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEyOTc=/z/4sUAAOSwv0tVcQIc/$_57.JPG[/IMG] - it says right on it that paper roll was patented in 1921. But just because the paper roll was patented in 1921, that does not mean the coins were put in it in 1921. They could have been put in it 10-20-maybe 50 or more years later. Maybe last week. But were they ? I dunno, I cannot say for certain either way. What I can say for certain is this - something is rotten Denmark ! Why ? Well look at that picture. In the bottom left it has $25 printed on it. But if you look closely, at the top left of the picture, you can just barely see where it says $20. And here's a better picture of it, also provided by the seller. [IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY0WDEzNjQ=/z/6a4AAOSwl8NVcQIt/$_57.JPG[/IMG] Now I don't know about you, but something sure smells to me when I see things like that.[/QUOTE]
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