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<p>[QUOTE="brg5658, post: 4743317, member: 29751"]How the hell did you come to that conclusion?</p><p><br /></p><p>I said the images were <b>AXIALLY LIT</b> - that's a method of coin photography. I didn't say they aren't trustworthy - I said they are misleading. <i><b>That means </b></i>- <b><i><span style="color: #00b300">you need to have extra information about the photos to understand what you are looking at.</span></i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know what your coin photography experience is, but I have plenty - and those images are simply glamour shots. The photographer can be a professional, but that doesn't mean that he/she didn't use the absolute optimal method possible to show the colors. If you got that coin in hand and looked at it under regular lighting conditions, you would <i>not </i>see that kind of toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>I get that the <i><b>Northern Lights</b></i> collection was specifically sold to highlight colors. I don't know if this was one of the Legend shows in LV or what, but when the goal of a <b><i><u>marketer</u> </i></b>is to emphasize colors, there are misleading ways to do that. The interpretation of coin photos takes experience and patience. With lots of experimenting with photography, you can easily pick out what kinds of method was used - but if you don't understand lighting, angles of lighting, etc. you are going to be fooled to think a coin will look like that in hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>Think of it another way - if the images of that Franklin Half were not cropped to just the coin, and included the full slab - you would know immediately that the lighting was done in a special way to bring out the colors. The slab would be very washed out, gray, and low contrast.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS does this <i>optimal artistic lighting </i>with their TrueView images all the time. They have a lighting setup that is absolutely not like anything that a coin would normally be viewed under. For some coins, the TrueViews look realistic. For others, you are getting an <i>artistically interpreted </i>view of the coin - not a view that would equate to what the coin looks like in hand. Some dealers like John Agre at CRO recognize this - John doesn't use PCGS TrueView images for selling coins (even though they are often available for coins he sells) because the PCGS images very often over-exaggerate colors. John has Mark Goodman photograph his stock for that very reason - Mark Goodman photographs coins so that they appear in photographs close to what they would look like from <i>most viewing angles </i>in hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>In summary, my point was that post-processing coin photos in software isn't the only way to create misleading coin photos. The lighting also plays a very large part. "<u>Juicing</u>" is generally accepted as a term for post-processing of images using software, and increasing the saturation or color profiles - I repeat, I never said the pictures were juiced. Others did, but I did not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="brg5658, post: 4743317, member: 29751"]How the hell did you come to that conclusion? I said the images were [B]AXIALLY LIT[/B] - that's a method of coin photography. I didn't say they aren't trustworthy - I said they are misleading. [I][B]That means [/B][/I]- [B][I][COLOR=#00b300]you need to have extra information about the photos to understand what you are looking at.[/COLOR][/I][/B] I don't know what your coin photography experience is, but I have plenty - and those images are simply glamour shots. The photographer can be a professional, but that doesn't mean that he/she didn't use the absolute optimal method possible to show the colors. If you got that coin in hand and looked at it under regular lighting conditions, you would [I]not [/I]see that kind of toning. I get that the [I][B]Northern Lights[/B][/I] collection was specifically sold to highlight colors. I don't know if this was one of the Legend shows in LV or what, but when the goal of a [B][I][U]marketer[/U] [/I][/B]is to emphasize colors, there are misleading ways to do that. The interpretation of coin photos takes experience and patience. With lots of experimenting with photography, you can easily pick out what kinds of method was used - but if you don't understand lighting, angles of lighting, etc. you are going to be fooled to think a coin will look like that in hand. Think of it another way - if the images of that Franklin Half were not cropped to just the coin, and included the full slab - you would know immediately that the lighting was done in a special way to bring out the colors. The slab would be very washed out, gray, and low contrast. PCGS does this [I]optimal artistic lighting [/I]with their TrueView images all the time. They have a lighting setup that is absolutely not like anything that a coin would normally be viewed under. For some coins, the TrueViews look realistic. For others, you are getting an [I]artistically interpreted [/I]view of the coin - not a view that would equate to what the coin looks like in hand. Some dealers like John Agre at CRO recognize this - John doesn't use PCGS TrueView images for selling coins (even though they are often available for coins he sells) because the PCGS images very often over-exaggerate colors. John has Mark Goodman photograph his stock for that very reason - Mark Goodman photographs coins so that they appear in photographs close to what they would look like from [I]most viewing angles [/I]in hand. In summary, my point was that post-processing coin photos in software isn't the only way to create misleading coin photos. The lighting also plays a very large part. "[U]Juicing[/U]" is generally accepted as a term for post-processing of images using software, and increasing the saturation or color profiles - I repeat, I never said the pictures were juiced. Others did, but I did not.[/QUOTE]
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