The Monster Toned Coin Game Thread

Good to hear. I've had a leaky gasket for years.

 

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I’d call it a 5 based on the photos. Looks to be just a tiny hair of surface degradation which I’m guessing is why it is graded 65 as based on marks and eye appeal it should be higher. Great coin

 

Each to their own. I have no skin in this game—I do not own the coin. I won it at the auction in Vegas in 2016, but resold it days later. It never made it to my house; We were on vacation, and another collector wanted it badly enough to pay double my winning bid. To me, it is a 6, but everybody has their own likes and prejudices.

 

Summary
Rd. 1: 1883-O Morgan NGC MS63* [Obv]...CT -> 3.6 (Mid) vs You -> 4 (Mid-High)
Rd. 2: 1880 Morgan PCGS MS62 [Obv]...CT -> 2.7 (Low-Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 3: 1881-S Morgan PCGS MS65 [Rev]...CT -> 3 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 4: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS65 [Obv]...CT -> 4.6 (Mid-High) vs You -> 5 (High)
Rd. 5: 1880-S Morgan NGC MS66* [Obv]...CT -> 3.2 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 6: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS?? [Rev]...CT -> 3.5 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 7: 1887 Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT-> 4.2 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
Rd. 8: 1939-D Lincoln PCGS MS65RB [Obv]...CT-> 4.1 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
Rd. 9: 1972-D Ike PCGS MS63 [Obv]...CT-> 2.3 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 2 (Low-Mid)
Rd. 10: 1892 GB Half Crown PCGS MS64 [Dual]...CT-> 4 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
Rd. 11: 1967 UK Half Crown PCGS MS65+ [Dual]...CT-> 3 (Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 12: 1963 Franklin NGC MS65+* FBL [Rev]...CT-> 4 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
Rd. 13: 1884-O Morgan PCGS MS63+ [Obv]...CT -> 5 (High) vs You -> 5 (High)
Rd. 14: 1899 GB 6 Pence PCGS MS65 [Dual]...CT-> 5 (High) vs You-> 5 (High)
Rd. 15: 1926 F.I.C. Piastre PCGS AU58 [Dual]...CT-> 3 (Mid) vs You-> 5 (High)
Rd. 16: 1904 USP Peso NGC PF62 [Dual]...CT-> 2.8 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
Rd. 17: 1944 Jeff Nickel PCGS MS 66 [Obv]...CT-> 4.8 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
Rd. 18: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS 66+ [Obv]...CT-> 2.7 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan PCGS MS 68+ [Obv]...CT-> 6 (Monster) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
Rd. 20: 1887 Morgan PCGS MS 66+ [Obv]...CT-> 5.3 (High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
Rd. 21: 1880-S Morgan NGC MS 66* [Obv]...CT-> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
Rd. 22: 1941-D Jeff Nickel NGC MS 67* 5FS [Dual]...CT-> 4.9 (Mid-High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
Rd. 23: 1961 Franklin 50c PCGS PR 65 [Dual]...CT-> 5.3 (High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)

 

@CircCam you are up

 

@LuxUnit is going to pinch hit on this one.

 

I'm going to post an image but include a link to a video because I don't have the camera set up to take a real quality image.

https://imgur.com/a/CwLGMi3

NGC MS 61 STAR + CAC



I'd grade it just barely a 4 but I'd understand a 3, but the marks aren't distracting to me when I'm looking at the color!

 

b/t a 4 and 3

 

I'll give it a solid 3

 

The obverse has some nice coloring but the nicks and gouges distract from the toning. I'd give this a 1. If the surfaces were better I'd have gone as high as a 3.

 

The 1884O gets a 3 from me. Interesting coin, but the reverse is more attractive than the obverse IMO.

 

I give it a 3, the surfaces really hold back the coin. This toning on a gem coin would be easy 4, maybe even a 5.

 

FYI ....
New message from: bdoubrava12012 (1,896)
Hey Bill,

And here is the short answer to your other question about the Toning!
Long Story Short, they came from a Bank that Caught on fire around 1959, the vault was never touched by actual flames but instead was super heated to the point that the paper notes and rolled coin wrappers were practically disintegrated. Before the fire department was told not to spray water inside the vault itself, they did and thus we had natural toning effects from super heated to super cooled copper and silver. Now the Manager of the Bank Purchased the Copper that had been affected from the bank and I purchased his estate over 20 years ago, and never went through the boxes, until about 8 months ago, I have about 800 pounds of toned wheat's and I am only on box 7 out of 18....I never know what I will find as I pick through them a little each day! These coins have been just as they are displayed in the photo's for almost 7 decades. To make sure I was properly describing the coins I am selling I called PCGS and NGC and told them the back story and sent them the Documentation as well as some sample coins from the estate. I was told by both grading company's that a coin that was not deliberately altered by a human but instead was altered due to circumstance would be considered as a "Naturally" Toned Coin. AND Therefore the coins from this bank fire are considered to be and CAN be described as NATURALLY TONED!
Yes they are quite unique and it was all about one variable.... the water and Steam and how it hit the coin to super cool the Patina on the Gem BU coins in the Vault and Safety Deposit Boxes.

Best Regards,
Brian
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That sounds like a fancy made up story from the eBay seller. I looked at some of the coins they have listed, and those aren't natural (or at least would not be straight graded by NGC or PCGS).

 

High 3. Agree that with a gem grade, it would be a 4. Nice colors, though.

 

hey does anyone kno where u find constitutional silver bcuz i cant find it in pawn shops

 

You can start a thread asking to buy some in the for sale section.
Then there are a bunch of online dealers plus eBay.
The bullion people might have other ideas if you post there.

 

I call it a solid 3, and that’s saying something for an MS61 to get there. Agreed with others that the toning itself combined with gem surfaces would be a different story but that is one heck of a coin and the nicest coin graded MS61 I have ever seen.

I’ll go after this one @ddddd

 

That entire passage is unbelievable and the part about NGC & PCGS is ludicrous.

 

This is the first time Ive ever really tried photographing colorful toned coins and it is a frustrating process. Just cannot get the pics to do justice at all to how they look in hand. Best I could get anyways. Man... I dont understand how anyone could NOT like a deeply colored toned coin. The thought that some would dip em makes me a lil ill...lol....1957 D Washinton from mint set.