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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2379818, member: 66"]Of course at any time the government can still decide that they want to confiscate it and do so.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The mint had been striking steel cents in 43 so it was possible to have leftover steel planchets that could accidentally be struck in 1944. But Denver had not been striking anything in aluminum so there was no place for the planchet to legitimately come from within the mint. it would have to have been brought in from outside by someone. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>One of the mules WAS recovered from circulation. That one they consider legtimate, the others they have declared to be government property. As far as I know though they have never made any overtures to recover them from the man that owns them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The government maintains that it is still government property as well. They just haven't taken steps to recover it. Let the current holders try and put it up for public auction and that may change.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The mint DID strike a coin in aluminum of the proper size for a cent. But only in 1972 and only at San Francisco (1971 Nepal 2 Pice in proof). The planchet was 18.5 mm pure aluminum. The 1 , 2, and 5 pice coins for this issue are the ONLY aluminum coins the mint has struck for other countries.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes Philadelphia did make aluminum cents, but they were NOT handed out as gifts to the Congressmen. They were distributed to the Congressmen so they could see what the new cents would look like. The Mint requested their return but 12 pieces did not come back. They weren't gifts, they were actually stolen by the congressmen. So the congressman didn't have the authority to give away the Toven coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The government maintains that they did NOT have any struck at Denver. The is no record of any order to do so or any record of a shipment of planchets to Denver. There is also no reason they would need to run tests at Denver</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The statute of limitations keeps you from being able to press charges, but it does not transfer ownership. If Izzy Switt was still alive today they could not charge him with the theft of the double eagles, but they could still recover them as being stolen government property. Ownership of stolen property always remains with those it was stolen from.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>At one time the government did go after them as not being legal because they didn't match the standards set forth in the revised statutes of 1874.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 2379818, member: 66"]Of course at any time the government can still decide that they want to confiscate it and do so. The mint had been striking steel cents in 43 so it was possible to have leftover steel planchets that could accidentally be struck in 1944. But Denver had not been striking anything in aluminum so there was no place for the planchet to legitimately come from within the mint. it would have to have been brought in from outside by someone. One of the mules WAS recovered from circulation. That one they consider legtimate, the others they have declared to be government property. As far as I know though they have never made any overtures to recover them from the man that owns them. The government maintains that it is still government property as well. They just haven't taken steps to recover it. Let the current holders try and put it up for public auction and that may change. The mint DID strike a coin in aluminum of the proper size for a cent. But only in 1972 and only at San Francisco (1971 Nepal 2 Pice in proof). The planchet was 18.5 mm pure aluminum. The 1 , 2, and 5 pice coins for this issue are the ONLY aluminum coins the mint has struck for other countries. Yes Philadelphia did make aluminum cents, but they were NOT handed out as gifts to the Congressmen. They were distributed to the Congressmen so they could see what the new cents would look like. The Mint requested their return but 12 pieces did not come back. They weren't gifts, they were actually stolen by the congressmen. So the congressman didn't have the authority to give away the Toven coin. The government maintains that they did NOT have any struck at Denver. The is no record of any order to do so or any record of a shipment of planchets to Denver. There is also no reason they would need to run tests at Denver The statute of limitations keeps you from being able to press charges, but it does not transfer ownership. If Izzy Switt was still alive today they could not charge him with the theft of the double eagles, but they could still recover them as being stolen government property. Ownership of stolen property always remains with those it was stolen from. At one time the government did go after them as not being legal because they didn't match the standards set forth in the revised statutes of 1874.[/QUOTE]
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