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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;19Lyds, post: 2376834, member: 15929&quot;]YOU, do not know that. You would like to believe that this is what happened but you really do no know. </p><p><br /></p><p>As such, stating that this particular coin was &quot;stolen&quot; is NOT an absolute. Only a presumption to which, the presumption is &quot;required&quot; to be toward the accused party unless &quot;proven&quot; beyond a reasonable doubt in court.</p><p><br /></p><p>One &quot;Federal Judge&quot; already stated as much. (Ref: <a href="http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2015/04/federal-judge-rules-against-government-in-1974-d-aluminum-cent-c.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2015/04/federal-judge-rules-against-government-in-1974-d-aluminum-cent-c.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2015/04/federal-judge-rules-against-government-in-1974-d-aluminum-cent-c.html</a> )</p><p><br /></p><p>However, the US Government, with their wealth simply filed more and more motions to dismiss the original complaint thereby costing the plaintiffs more and more legal fee&#039;s.</p><p><br /></p><p>The case was never concluded, merely settled with the presumption that continuing the effort would end up costing more than the coin was worth.</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, that does not state, for a fact, that the coin was &quot;stolen&quot; as ruled by the Federal Judge in San Diego:</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;On March 26, Judge William Q. Hayes issued an opinion where he denied the government’s motion to dismiss the complaint, stating “it is plausible that a Mint official, with proper authority and in an authorized manner, allowed Harry Lawrence to keep the 1974-D aluminum cent. Drawing reasonable inferences, it is plausible that Harry Lawrence lawfully obtained possession of the aluminum cent, giving Plaintiffs superior claim of title to the aluminum cent.”</p><p><br /></p><p>The two men contend that because the government gave the coin to Harry Lawrence and that Randall Lawrence had undisturbed control of the coin for the past 34 years, this creates a presumption of title and requires the recognition of ownership rights of the coin.&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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