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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2376340, member: 76863"]In the 18th and 19th mint records weren't iffy, they were atrocious. Their records in modern day while much better by comparison are still far from perfect. Maybe now they may have cleaned them up to be accurate (I seriously doubt they're accurate down to the last coin) but 40 years ago they were still sloppy and it was still before the days of computer backups and the ability to audit from a database. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In 1974 the Denver mint produced 4 billion regular cents this is nothing more than a cent made of aluminum. It is no different than the 1944 steel cents which were never authorized either. Off planchet errors have everything to do with this discussion and are hard evidence of the massive inconsistencies of the mint in picking and choosing what they feel like going after. </p><p><br /></p><p>It has yet to be proven that the coin was stolen when many other explanations that would not be considered theft exist. You may be willing to find someone guilty without being proven but in this instance I am not when it certainly wouldn't be theft if it was in fact gifted to him like they claim. The case never went far enough for the court to actually come to a final conclusion on that claim but it should be noted that the initial ruling was that the story could in fact be plausible. </p><p><br /></p><p>But yes off planchet strikes are entirely relevant as are the sac mules as clearly not a single one of them was ever authorized but they trade freely. A 1974 P aluminum cent is allowed to remain in private hands as well that was originally gifted to a congressmen. Sorry but if its okay if it was gifted to a congressman it is okay if it was gifted to an employee as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>As a bit of a side note as well, since that one 74 D aluminum cent clearly exists you can almost certainly bet some of the others do as well.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 2376340, member: 76863"]In the 18th and 19th mint records weren't iffy, they were atrocious. Their records in modern day while much better by comparison are still far from perfect. Maybe now they may have cleaned them up to be accurate (I seriously doubt they're accurate down to the last coin) but 40 years ago they were still sloppy and it was still before the days of computer backups and the ability to audit from a database. In 1974 the Denver mint produced 4 billion regular cents this is nothing more than a cent made of aluminum. It is no different than the 1944 steel cents which were never authorized either. Off planchet errors have everything to do with this discussion and are hard evidence of the massive inconsistencies of the mint in picking and choosing what they feel like going after. It has yet to be proven that the coin was stolen when many other explanations that would not be considered theft exist. You may be willing to find someone guilty without being proven but in this instance I am not when it certainly wouldn't be theft if it was in fact gifted to him like they claim. The case never went far enough for the court to actually come to a final conclusion on that claim but it should be noted that the initial ruling was that the story could in fact be plausible. But yes off planchet strikes are entirely relevant as are the sac mules as clearly not a single one of them was ever authorized but they trade freely. A 1974 P aluminum cent is allowed to remain in private hands as well that was originally gifted to a congressmen. Sorry but if its okay if it was gifted to a congressman it is okay if it was gifted to an employee as well. As a bit of a side note as well, since that one 74 D aluminum cent clearly exists you can almost certainly bet some of the others do as well.[/QUOTE]
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