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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;coppermania, post: 1410435, member: 18304&quot;]It appears to me that many older holderd coins are still in them because they have no shot in upgrading. Unless a coin has been in a confirmed private collection for 20+ years which is very possible. If they have been cycling the coin show scene, you can bet every dealer in the room has noticed its upgrade potential so I don&#039;t look for sweet coins in old holders there. Lets say a nice coin with crack out potential is for sale in an old holder, but the price is crazy, I tend to pass because a coin should be sold as to the numerical grade on the holder, not some potential blue sky. If a dealer wants 66 money for a 65, then they should take the chance and resubmit themselves in order to get it. Paying 66 money for a 65 based on an old slab is foolish IMO.&nbsp; I do like to see copper in old holders that still holds its awarded color designation and that is worth a slight premium for the coin being stable, but it will then need to be stored correctly by the new owner.</p><p><br /></p><p>Matt[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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