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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 26088519, member: 4626"]Bribery <i>IS</i> illegal, no court has ever suggested otherwise, and very distinct from political speech, contributing to politicians' or political parties' campaigns, or lobbying elected officials. Free speech and redressing the government for grievances are Constitutional rights, even if one is paid by someone to do it. The fact one is paid to do it doesn't make it bribery, but it is fair to question their biases (which is also protected free speech).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>A smart person would never put it precisely that way, because that would unarguably be blatant bribery. Any honest and reasonably intelligent politician would immediately suspect that as a bribery sting.</p><p><br /></p><p>Individuals and organizations are allowed to donate to political parties and campaigns, and there's a lot of laws and regulations about what is and is not allowed. And anyone has the right to convince legislators to pass or not pass legislation. That much is fact; discussing opinions on the matter would be getting into political debate not allowed here.</p><p><br /></p><p>My only real point is Mark Weller should not be taken as impartial. Also, there's really no evidence for his assertion that eliminating the penny would increase inflation; in fact evidence from other countries suggest it wouldn't likely be the case.</p><p><br /></p><p>I just think from a purely practical standpoint the arguments for getting rid of the penny have more weight than arguments for keeping it. The fact that it costs significantly more to mint than it's worth I would say is argument enough. The current president apparently agrees.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 26088519, member: 4626"]Bribery [I]IS[/I] illegal, no court has ever suggested otherwise, and very distinct from political speech, contributing to politicians' or political parties' campaigns, or lobbying elected officials. Free speech and redressing the government for grievances are Constitutional rights, even if one is paid by someone to do it. The fact one is paid to do it doesn't make it bribery, but it is fair to question their biases (which is also protected free speech). A smart person would never put it precisely that way, because that would unarguably be blatant bribery. Any honest and reasonably intelligent politician would immediately suspect that as a bribery sting. Individuals and organizations are allowed to donate to political parties and campaigns, and there's a lot of laws and regulations about what is and is not allowed. And anyone has the right to convince legislators to pass or not pass legislation. That much is fact; discussing opinions on the matter would be getting into political debate not allowed here. My only real point is Mark Weller should not be taken as impartial. Also, there's really no evidence for his assertion that eliminating the penny would increase inflation; in fact evidence from other countries suggest it wouldn't likely be the case. I just think from a purely practical standpoint the arguments for getting rid of the penny have more weight than arguments for keeping it. The fact that it costs significantly more to mint than it's worth I would say is argument enough. The current president apparently agrees.[/QUOTE]
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