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I should say caracalla is my fav emperor as he eliminated any threat to his rule a lesson to be learned for weak politicians today.

 

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They should murder their brothers? Anyway, there are certainly plenty of emperors for you to pick from if that's your standard for choosing a favorite!

 

Not only caracalla , Abbasid caliph al-mamun killed his brother Al-amin and history remembers him as a great leader, great philosopher and patron of knowledge in Arab world. so killing a brother to achieve great things sometimes could be justified. Also Kim Jong un leader of Korea killed his brother recently and as we see ,it increased his grip on power. Here is a famous quote from Abbasid caliph al-Rashid: Power is childless it doesn't understand father and son

 

And you consider politicians who don't engage in such conduct weak, and believe they should take lessons from the historical figures you name. Perhaps you should move to North Korea? I don't know if they have a thriving ancient coin market there, though.

 

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Don't think the imperialism is dead yet, it is very much alive just under a new skin . all the ancient practice of Nero, caracalla and caliphs will be revived. [Edited] So Trust in me I know history enough to understand the strong resemblance. Plus when I read about what caracalla did to alexandrians in Egypt for making fun of him and sympathizing for death of Geta , I get a huge adrenaline rush, He gave them such a lesson that they will not forget for ages lool

 

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Murdering your little brother and punishing people who make fun of you would scream insecurity and weakness to most.

Hardly the acts of a man of fortitude or courage.

 

Caracalla was a courageous military king. He attended personally so many wars. He was killed by a coward who did not dare to kill him in a close combat [edited]. The manner of his death proves no one dared to engage him one to one in a battle field. So you cant really label caracalla as a weak person who lack courage. He punish his enemy to prove a point that his regime does not tolerate any conspiracy against him. The fact that you challenge me on what I say clearly shows your lack of historical knowledge. Read above comments to see how many examples I brought in from various era where rulers did similar actions that caracalla did. You cant possibly accuse all rulers of human history. come on !!!

 

Yes I am damn serious and everything I say has a solid proven historical facts behind it! Keep in mind what you believe in as democracy has failed 2000 years ago and buried with Brutus! Republic failed 2000 years ago and will fail again. Be ready for a new JC to abolish the stupid idea of republic or democracy or whatever you call it! it's a failure and a huge conspiracy created in last 100 years by globalists who think like you. But rest assured age of globalism is over!!!

 

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If this flame war exchange does not stop, both parties may be subject to disciplinary points. It would be unfair to @Roman Collector for me to have to sweep his thread away to Purgatory because of bickering within it by other parties. So let those other parties be duly warned. This thread will disappear if it has to. ~Mod.

 

Thanks again for the additional research, RC. I've taken a closer look at the coin in hand, and though I wish things were clearer at the neck truncation, I do believe you're right that it's a third "I" afterall. I'm amending my attribution accordingly.

 

Very interesting, RC. I have this coin - mine is pretty rough, but the obverse legend is sorta there - I could definitely see how this might be XIII rather than XII - I need to change my attribution:



Antoninus Pius Æ Sestertius
(c. 158-159 A.D.)
Rome Mint
ANTONINVS AVG [PIVS PP T]R P XXII, laureate head right / [PI]ETATI AVG COS IIII S-C, Pietas draped standing left holding globe and child, to left and right two small girls standing.
RIC 1002; BMC 2062.
(17.34 grams / 34 mm)

Notes:
"This coin is believed to be...commemorating the grandchildren of Antoninus Pius or the birth of Marcus Aurelius/Faustina II's third surviving daughter. The reverse is described as Faustina Jr. as Pietas...standing left between Faustina Minima, Lucilla and holding baby Fadilla."
(FORVM post)

 

@DonnaML You are awesome!
- please do not fall for this - move on - life is too short... don't get banned.
When I do similar I can only blame alcohol (it happens)..
But your lawyer life shows itself instantly.
My 20 year old (next month) daughter is an aspiring lawyer.. I give her crap for something she has done but, by the time I am finished my diatribe she's already torn my arguments apart and "I" end up apologizing. She has a bright future.

 

Rough or not, that coin is cool, @Marsyas Mike ! Although undated, I think this coin was likely issued at the same time. Lucina was the aspect of Juno associated with light and childbirth, during which she eased the pain and made sure all went well.

Sestertius from my collection:


RIC 1649; BMCRE 918; Cohen 136; Strack 1338; MIR 18-6/10a.

Dupondius from my collection:

RIC 1650; BMCRE p.541*; Cohen 137; Strack 1338; MIR 18-7/10a.

And, in all its golden glory, an aureus from the British Museum collection:


RIC 692; BMCRE 116; Cohen 134; Calicó 2064-2064a; Strack 520f; MIR 18-2/10a.

 

Here are a pair of Faustina II sestertii with a mess of kids - she looks busy! TEMPOR FELICI (RIC 1674 - stephane and no stephane, I think):

 

The bare-headed one is RIC 1673; BMCRE 949; Cohen 222, while the stephaned one is RIC 1674; BMCRE 952; Cohen 224.

That coin was issued in AD 161 to commemorate the birth of Commodus and his twin brother T. Aurelius Fulvus Antoninus. Be sure to repost this tomorrow in my "Happy Birthday, Commodus" thread I'm planning.

My sestertius has awfully rough surfaces ...


... but the middle bronze isn't such an eyesore.

 

Thanks. And don't worry; I have no plans to get banned! I was trying hard not to engage substantively, but couldn't resist the temptation to be snide, because the whole discussion was so fundamentally silly. I'll try harder to resist such temptations in the future!

 

It can be do hard when these non coin posting trolls show up with silly and ridiculous opinions clearly meant to ruffle feathers (their comments in the auction house thread were just as bizarre and garnered just as many likes). This one has many of the same mannerisms of one such troll who keeps getting banned but loves us all so much they just keep sneaking back. It's sad.

 

Yeah, I wondered...