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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1704095, member: 27832"]...is going to take a while to dissect.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-493-ASSORTED-U-S-COINS-DAMAGED-NO-DATES-AND-DARK-21-10-FACE-VALUE-/230969912374?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=y8hNKAmCmLcoj52hqt%252FMlsetbys%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-493-ASSORTED-U-S-COINS-DAMAGED-NO-DATES-AND-DARK-21-10-FACE-VALUE-/230969912374?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=y8hNKAmCmLcoj52hqt%252FMlsetbys%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc" rel="nofollow">LOT OF 493 ASSORTED U.S. COINS DAMAGED NO DATES AND DARK $21.10 FACE VALUE</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Probably going to have to spawn off a bunch of threads for this one with questions/photos. A few highlights:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) The trade dollar is (or purports to be) an 1878-P. That was a proof-only issue, and I don't think there's any way it would've gotten holed and engraved for jewelry; it's gotta be fake. (Looking at the photos prior to bidding, I assumed that it was actually an 1873-P.) But it weighs exactly what I'd expect for a trade dollar with a small hole, and it passes the first round of diagnostics (type 2 reverse). I'll be seeking help with proving it's fake (beyond the obvious "it couldn't <i>possibly</i> be real"). It's got a good bit of rim damage (as opposed to edge damage); I'm thinking of going ahead and dragging one of the damaged areas across a stone to do an acid test.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) One of the first Buffaloes I pulled was a very dark, but otherwise very nice, 1924-S, with most of the horn showing. Nearly all the rest were dateless, but the very last one I pulled was a gouged but clear-dated and un-acid-treated 1921-S.</p><p><br /></p><p>3) There were a lot of complete culls in the IHCs -- holed, misshapen, corroded to death -- but also quite a few readable dates in the 1860s and even a couple from the 1870s.</p><p><br /></p><p>4) There were actually a couple of 1883 no-cents nickels, along with a number of other better dates. No 1885, 1886 or 1912-S, unfortunately. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>5) <i>All</i> the Jeffersons appeared <i>rusted</i>. I'm not sure what in the world they were exposed to, but they really look like rusted steel. It's a shame, too; one 1938-P looks like it has full steps, and it's got an almost proof-like finish, beyond the rust spots, of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>5) The wheat cents comprised 41 rusted steel cents, three gold-plated memorials (two counterstamped "12-31-74", the day gold ownership was re-legalized), a 1975 with a part sliced off, two 1918-P's stuck together with gunk -- and five semi-keys, which I'll discuss in a separate thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was pretty sore when I saw that the trade dollar was most likely fake; I'd figured that that could be flipped on eBay for close to half my total bid, even in its damaged state. (Yeah, I know, don't buy raw trade dollars if you don't know what you're doing -- but Buyer Protection, yadda, yadda.) But after the other things I've found in this lot, and the <i>fun</i> that I had going through it, I may just keep it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1704095, member: 27832"]...is going to take a while to dissect. [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-493-ASSORTED-U-S-COINS-DAMAGED-NO-DATES-AND-DARK-21-10-FACE-VALUE-/230969912374?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=y8hNKAmCmLcoj52hqt%252FMlsetbys%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc"]LOT OF 493 ASSORTED U.S. COINS DAMAGED NO DATES AND DARK $21.10 FACE VALUE[/URL] Probably going to have to spawn off a bunch of threads for this one with questions/photos. A few highlights: 1) The trade dollar is (or purports to be) an 1878-P. That was a proof-only issue, and I don't think there's any way it would've gotten holed and engraved for jewelry; it's gotta be fake. (Looking at the photos prior to bidding, I assumed that it was actually an 1873-P.) But it weighs exactly what I'd expect for a trade dollar with a small hole, and it passes the first round of diagnostics (type 2 reverse). I'll be seeking help with proving it's fake (beyond the obvious "it couldn't [I]possibly[/I] be real"). It's got a good bit of rim damage (as opposed to edge damage); I'm thinking of going ahead and dragging one of the damaged areas across a stone to do an acid test. 2) One of the first Buffaloes I pulled was a very dark, but otherwise very nice, 1924-S, with most of the horn showing. Nearly all the rest were dateless, but the very last one I pulled was a gouged but clear-dated and un-acid-treated 1921-S. 3) There were a lot of complete culls in the IHCs -- holed, misshapen, corroded to death -- but also quite a few readable dates in the 1860s and even a couple from the 1870s. 4) There were actually a couple of 1883 no-cents nickels, along with a number of other better dates. No 1885, 1886 or 1912-S, unfortunately. :rolleyes: 5) [I]All[/I] the Jeffersons appeared [I]rusted[/I]. I'm not sure what in the world they were exposed to, but they really look like rusted steel. It's a shame, too; one 1938-P looks like it has full steps, and it's got an almost proof-like finish, beyond the rust spots, of course. 5) The wheat cents comprised 41 rusted steel cents, three gold-plated memorials (two counterstamped "12-31-74", the day gold ownership was re-legalized), a 1975 with a part sliced off, two 1918-P's stuck together with gunk -- and five semi-keys, which I'll discuss in a separate thread. I was pretty sore when I saw that the trade dollar was most likely fake; I'd figured that that could be flipped on eBay for close to half my total bid, even in its damaged state. (Yeah, I know, don't buy raw trade dollars if you don't know what you're doing -- but Buyer Protection, yadda, yadda.) But after the other things I've found in this lot, and the [I]fun[/I] that I had going through it, I may just keep it.[/QUOTE]
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