The Last Romans

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    In the year 395 AD. Emperor Theodosius was ruling alone on the remains of the Roman Empire. That same year, The Empire was divided for ever between Eastern under Arcadius; and Western under Honorius.
    Romulus Augustulus was the last Roman Emperor of the West Who was overthrown in the year 476. On the Eastern side, Emperor Leo I and his grand son Leo II were succeeded in 474 AD. by Emperor Zeno whose advent marked the beginning of the
    BYZANTINE EMPIRE..
    The following bronze coin was struck by Leo I ( 457- 476 ). The coinage by that time was very weak, namely the bronze one. There are too many varieties and errors that keep showing every day. I think we'd better shed some light on that obscure period marking the transition from Roman to Byzantine. The coin was struck in Constantinople. The reverse shows the Emperor holding a long cross, with a captive at foot. There's a star in the left field. CON in exergue ( C ). Weight : 1.11 g. Diameter 11 mm. RIC X- CON- 701. Sear 21452.
    I managed to double the size and scan at maximum resolution.
    N.B. There were too many imitations by the Vandals and other barbarian tribes.
    Try to post any relevant coin if you like. Thanks.. LeoObv600.jpg LeoReve600.jpg
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2018
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  3. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Theodosius the Great, the last emperor of East and West:


    Theodosius AA.jpg
     
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice capture of Leo I @7Calbrey ! I agree these late Empire coins are just a ghost of the type coins on the by-gone Republic or Earlier Empire!

    I feel they went from Greek-realism to CARTOONS in the late-Empire...

    RI Leo I 457-474 CE AE 4 10mm Salus Emp stdg hldg Globe and Standard.jpg
    RI Leo I 457-474 CE AE 4 10mm Salus Emp stdg hldg Globe and Standard

    RI Theodosius I 379-395 CE AE 18mm Concordia.jpg
    RI Theodosius I 379-395 CE AE 18mm Concordia

    RI Honorius 393-343 AE3 15mm Arcadius and Honorius Stdg.jpg
    RI Honorius 393-343 AE3 15mm Arcadius and Honorius Stdg

    RI Zeno 476-491 CE 2nd reign AE 10mm Monogram.JPG
    RI Zeno 476-491 CE 2nd reign AE 10mm Monogram
     
  5. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Marcianus (450-457), who reigned before Leo I. AE Constantinopolis.
    Obv. Draped, diademed and cuirassed bust. D N MARCIANVS P F AVG. Rev. Imperial monogram in wreath, under cross, CON in exergue. EF. 12 mm, 0.87 gr. RIC 543-5. Wildwinds: monogram 1. Sear 21395.
    Large pic, but a tiny coin.

    2851 Marcianus L (1).jpg
     
  6. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    And here's a Vandal bronze from Africa, an imitation of a Honorius coin. Everybody knows their reputation, but maybe they dropped just one vase more than the Ostrogoths or the other barbabrians.
    Carthage? 5th-6th century. Obv.: Diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right; crude legend around. Rev.: Victory crowning emperor’s head with wreath. 12.5 mm, 1.41 gr. Prototype: RIC X 62.

    4420 Vandals sm.jpg
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Theodosius I 379-395 A.D.

    AE 23, 4.8 grams - Cyzicus A.D. 379-383

    Obverse: DN THEODOSIVS PF AVG
    Diademed, helmeted, draped, and cuirassed bust right, holding spear and shield

    Reverse: GLORIA ROMANORVM
    Theodosius standing left on galley, head right, raising hand, Victory at helm, wreath in left field

    Mintmark: SMKB

    Reference: RIC IX 14c.2, pg. 242

    From the collection of Doug Smith

    theo1.jpg

    theo2.jpg
     
  8. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Honorius was Western Roman Emperor. Arcadius was over the East.
     
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  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Arcadius, A.D. 395-408

    AE21, 5.7 grams, Antioch mint

    Obverse: D N ARCADI-VS P F AVG
    Rosette-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: GLORIA ROMANORVM
    Emperor standing facing, head right, holding standard and globe

    Mintmark: ANT

    Reference: RIC IX Antioch 68C, pg. 294

    arcadius6.jpg

    arcadius7.jpg
     
  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    @G.R.. Oh yes. Thank you very much for this acute correction. I've just edited after your signal. Honorius ruled over the West, whereas Arcadius ruled over the Eastern Empire.
     
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  11. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    West
    ri229a.jpg
    Johannes
    Mint: Rome
    423 to 425 AD
    AE 4
    Obvs: DN IOHANN-ES PF AVG, Draped and cuiassed right.
    Revs: SALVS REIPVBLICE, Victory advancing left, holding trophy over shoulder and dragging captive. Christogram to left.
    11x12mm, 1.12g

    ri186.jpg
    Valentinian III
    Mint: Rome
    425 to 455 AD
    AE Nummus
    Obvs: Valentinian right.
    Revs: (VI)CTOR(IA AVGG), Victory advancing left holding wreath and palm branch. T(RM)
    9x10mm, 1.5g

    East
    ri139.jpg
    Zeno(second reign)
    477 to 491 AD
    Mint: ?
    AE 3
    Obvs: DN ZE[ ] PE Λ, Helmeted, draped and cuirassed right.
    Revs: No inscription, Victory advancing left, holding wreath and dragging captive. Chi-Rho to l
    13mm, 1.0g

    ri203.jpg
    Leo I
    457 to 474 AD
    Constantinople
    AE Nummus
    Obvs: DN LEO PF AVG
    Revs: Lion crouching, CON below.
    11x12mm, 1.30g

    ri217.jpg
    Leo I
    457 to 474 AD
    AE Nummus
    Obvs: DN LEO, Leo right.
    Revs: Verina standing facing, holding globus cruciger and transverse scepter.
    10x11mm, 1.17g
     
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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great later examples @David@PCC ! And a great job in attributing those tiny coins.
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    COOL! A Johannes and Valentinian III @David@PCC

    Have the Iohannes and Valentinian III:

    RI Johannes  423-425 CE AE4 Nummus Victory RARE.jpg
    RI Johannes 423-425 CE AE4 Nummus Victory RARE

    RI Valentinian III 425-455 CE AE 9mm Rome mint.jpg
    RI Valentinian III 425-455 CE AE 9mm Rome mint
     
  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Theodosius II ruled over the Eastern Empire from the year 408 till 450 ( Nearly half a century ). I think he deserves a place here. The fastest coin that reached my hand was struck in Antioch with 3 Emperors on reverse. Poor condition though. RIC X - ANT- 155

    Theod 2 O       Ant 3Emp..jpg Theodo 2 Ric  X - 155.jpg
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    These are tough little coins to get @7Calbrey !

    Theodosius II:
    RI Theodosius II 402-450 CE AE4 11mm Cross in Wreath.jpg
    RI Theodosius II 402-450 CE AE4 11mm Cross in Wreath
     
  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    The latest I can go is the Zeno monogram AE4


    102_3962_zpsb8ec1ca7.jpg

    I know I didn't post the obverse, but trust me, you aren't missing anything.
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    IMHO the last 'Roman' coin is this pre-reform (monogrammed) nummus of Anastasius. In a perfect world, Anastasius would have issued a post-reform coin with a large A on the reverse but his smallest regular issue was E=5. There are A coins of Anastasius and Justinian usually attributed to the Vandals from Carthage mint. It would be nice to know what you could buy with this coin when it was issued. rz0010bb2287.jpg
    I don't have an Anastasius E but this is a Justin I. If you see full legend coins of this size, consider buying them.
    rz0030bb1309.jpg
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hmmm... I just have a POST-Reform Anastasius...

    BZ Anastasius I 491-518 AE Post Reform Folles M monogram.jpg
    BZ Anastasius I 491-518 AE Post Reform Folles M monogram
     
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  19. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice examples of late Roman coinage. The minting quality was pretty decent upto Severus III, then it really went downhill with the Western Empire. The Eastern side produced quality coinage during the decline in the West. Here is my Zeno. 3dce69166df7b865e863764aada15bbf.jpg
     
  20. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    My tiniest coin is of Theodosius II and has a cross in wreath on reverse. It was struck in Cyzicus.

    TheoCross.jpg TheoCyz R.jpg
     
  21. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Those are some very impressive coins you all have posted! These are my (basic) contributions to this group.

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    Theodosius I
    AE2, Cyzicus mint, Struck 383-388 AD
    D N THEODO-SIVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    VIRTVS E-XERCITI, Emperor standing right, holding standard in right hand and globe in left; left foot on captive.
    SMKA in exergue.
    RIC IX 025(b), LRBC II 2565.
    25-25mm

    20180217_081806.jpg 20180217_081524.jpg
    Arcadius
    AE4, Antioch mint, Struck 383-393 AD
    D N ARCADIUS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    SALVS REI-PVBLICAE, victory walking right, holding trophy over shoulder, dragging a captive behind her, cross in left field.
    ANT (gamma) in exergue.
    RIC IX Antioch 67d, Sear 20852
    12mm, 1.2g

    20180217_081419.jpg
    I have always REALLY LOVED the high graphic nature of this tiny AE4!
     
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