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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3875061, member: 56859"]<b>Fantastic!!</b> I look forward to reading that book and appreciate the expanded information about urnulae. We had fun hypothesizing about what they are when discussing the reverse of this coin:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerodiobol-dattari-vase-e153-jpg.726813/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Nero</b></p><p>Regnal year 14 (CE 67/8)</p><p>AE diobol; 27 mm, 10.9 gm</p><p>Obv: NEPΩKΛAVK[AIΣΣEBΓEPA]; laureate head right</p><p>Rev: L - IΔ; "vase" (Emmett), or "oinochoe" per others (others are probably correct)</p><p>Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 1, 2 (<i>this coin</i>); Dattari cf 286; RPC 5322; Emmett 153.14; Poole (BM, 1892) cf 188?</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>We were disappointed to learn it <i>isn't</i> a bong Nero used for smoking Silphium <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerobonged-gif.726983/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The "canopic jar" depictions are interesting. Apparently they are not truly jars or vessels with accessible interior but rather statues mis-labeled in modern times.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a Hadrian tetradrachm with very detailed canopic "jar" which looks like it may have been modeled after the Osiris-Canopus from Hadrian's villa, although the headdress is slightly different:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_d6c50b3a3ca24add9f6d16be88795bdd%2525257Emv2.jpg%252526hash%25253D80a8cdf4731d3456bbd841c38bf3c659%2526hash%253Dc55bcc3599bbc6113a2210076d5713de%26hash%3D953e87960814e191d0dbecec9f68b296&hash=278ed2966ae2373718c4c4a4e0fff802" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian</b></p><p>year 11, CE 126/7</p><p>billon tetradrachm, 26 mm, 12.6 gm</p><p>Obv: AVTKAITPAI AΔPIACEB; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind</p><p>Rev: L ENΔ EKATOV: Canopus of Osiris right</p><p>Ref: Emmett 827.11, R3; Milne 1205</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hadriantetosiriscanopus-hadrianvillaosiriscanopus-jpg.729157/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Another canopus reverse:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%25252Fmedia%25252Fae43f8_47b39362ebc940b0b57af603449f184d%25257Emv2.jpg%25252Fv1%25252Ffill%25252Fw_1000%25252Ch_625%25252Cal_c%25252Cq_85%25252Fae43f8_47b39362ebc940b0b57af603449f184d%25257Emv2.jpg%2526hash%253De80ccc802919b664a1e761a418e0d078%26hash%3D052f6798e1bf232589267ad3169407e4&hash=f7c496ed52b914c78d38784a4cdd1984" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian</b></p><p>year 18, CE 133/4</p><p>Æ drachm, 26.4 gm</p><p>Obv: AYT KAIC TPAIAN (A∆PIANOC CEB), laureate and draped bust right</p><p>Rev: Canopic jars facing; L I H across fields</p><p>Ref: Emmett 933.18, R1</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Canopus</b> was a city on the Nile delta. In that city, Ptolemy III built a temple to Osiris and in that city Osiris was depicted as a vase-like or jar-like sculpture. I don't know more about this temple or the artifacts, but that general style of lidded funerary vase (jar topped by an animal or human head) was dubbed "Canopic" jar by modern Egyptologists because of the resemblance to these artifacts of Osiris found in the town of Canopus.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the standard four funerary canopic jars, with heads of the four sons of Horus:</p><p><img src="http://www.sadighgallery.com/assets/images/Home%20Page/Sadigh%20Gallery%20Featured%20Canopic%20Jars.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3875061, member: 56859"][B]Fantastic!![/B] I look forward to reading that book and appreciate the expanded information about urnulae. We had fun hypothesizing about what they are when discussing the reverse of this coin: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerodiobol-dattari-vase-e153-jpg.726813/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Nero[/B] Regnal year 14 (CE 67/8) AE diobol; 27 mm, 10.9 gm Obv: NEPΩKΛAVK[AIΣΣEBΓEPA]; laureate head right Rev: L - IΔ; "vase" (Emmett), or "oinochoe" per others (others are probably correct) Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 1, 2 ([I]this coin[/I]); Dattari cf 286; RPC 5322; Emmett 153.14; Poole (BM, 1892) cf 188? [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/[/URL] We were disappointed to learn it [I]isn't[/I] a bong Nero used for smoking Silphium :D [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerobonged-gif.726983/[/IMG] The "canopic jar" depictions are interesting. Apparently they are not truly jars or vessels with accessible interior but rather statues mis-labeled in modern times. Here's a Hadrian tetradrachm with very detailed canopic "jar" which looks like it may have been modeled after the Osiris-Canopus from Hadrian's villa, although the headdress is slightly different: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2525252Fmedia%2525252Fae43f8_d6c50b3a3ca24add9f6d16be88795bdd%2525257Emv2.jpg%252526hash%25253D80a8cdf4731d3456bbd841c38bf3c659%2526hash%253Dc55bcc3599bbc6113a2210076d5713de%26hash%3D953e87960814e191d0dbecec9f68b296&hash=278ed2966ae2373718c4c4a4e0fff802[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian[/B] year 11, CE 126/7 billon tetradrachm, 26 mm, 12.6 gm Obv: AVTKAITPAI AΔPIACEB; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind Rev: L ENΔ EKATOV: Canopus of Osiris right Ref: Emmett 827.11, R3; Milne 1205 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hadriantetosiriscanopus-hadrianvillaosiriscanopus-jpg.729157/[/IMG] Another canopus reverse: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%25252Fmedia%25252Fae43f8_47b39362ebc940b0b57af603449f184d%25257Emv2.jpg%25252Fv1%25252Ffill%25252Fw_1000%25252Ch_625%25252Cal_c%25252Cq_85%25252Fae43f8_47b39362ebc940b0b57af603449f184d%25257Emv2.jpg%2526hash%253De80ccc802919b664a1e761a418e0d078%26hash%3D052f6798e1bf232589267ad3169407e4&hash=f7c496ed52b914c78d38784a4cdd1984[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian[/B] year 18, CE 133/4 Æ drachm, 26.4 gm Obv: AYT KAIC TPAIAN (A∆PIANOC CEB), laureate and draped bust right Rev: Canopic jars facing; L I H across fields Ref: Emmett 933.18, R1 [B]Canopus[/B] was a city on the Nile delta. In that city, Ptolemy III built a temple to Osiris and in that city Osiris was depicted as a vase-like or jar-like sculpture. I don't know more about this temple or the artifacts, but that general style of lidded funerary vase (jar topped by an animal or human head) was dubbed "Canopic" jar by modern Egyptologists because of the resemblance to these artifacts of Osiris found in the town of Canopus. Here are the standard four funerary canopic jars, with heads of the four sons of Horus: [IMG]http://www.sadighgallery.com/assets/images/Home%20Page/Sadigh%20Gallery%20Featured%20Canopic%20Jars.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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