The "I Must Be Dreaming" Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lucky Cuss, Mar 6, 2014.

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Grade it if you care to

  1. Genuine Uncirculated Details

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%

  2. MS-63

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%

  3. MS-64

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%

  4. MS-65

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    One big difference Doug is he had the coin in hand. I think as you gain experience in the hobby, you could easily go find raw coins for your collection, but remember a few things:

    1) only buy from a trusted source, especially online
    2) photographs can hide a lot
    3) known the series before buying the coin
     
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  3. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    Yes, but it's just easier to characterize the degree of frost on the devices of a coin like this in those terms.
     
    Lucky Cuss, Mar 6, 2014
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  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Has some cameo, but does not appear prooflike. That date in PL has huge mirrors. I have two in PL, and they are more contrary, and reflective. It is a very nice coin.
     
    Morgandude11, Mar 6, 2014
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  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Looks to be a solid ms 64 could go pl but not dpl hard to say without seeing in hand nice coin regardless especially for $5 over melt
     
    Mainebill, Mar 7, 2014
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  6. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed and were not saying don't buy raw coins just stay away from commonly faked coins like trade dollars cc morgans early dollars and key dates many series are fine to buy raw especially as you train your eye to look for problems case in point I'd not worry about mercury dimes except 1916-d same with ihc except 1877 best way to learn is to buy inexpensive stuff raw train your eye on what to look for and eventually you'll feel confident about all coins in the series you collect :)
     
    Mainebill, Mar 7, 2014
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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As special designations on TPG slabs, yes that is correct. But there are a great many Morgans that have cameo devices. In fact just about all business strike coins from that time period were designed to have cameo devices. There just aren't as many of them that still survive as there are Morgans. The TPGs recognize these coins with special designations too, but to keep them separate from Proofs they use the PL or DMPL designations.

    So using the word cameo when talking about business strike coins, especially Morgans, is perfectly acceptable and accurate.
     
    GDJMSP, Mar 8, 2014
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  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Missed typo---they are not more "contrary," they are more contrasty. That is, as long as I feed and play with them often enough. Otherwise, they get ornery. :) :)

    Seriously, the OP coin is very nice, but definitely not PL or deep mirrors--it is a nice, contrasty Morgan, with some cameo that is common to the early 1880 dates, and as I said previously, probably a 64. NOT a gem coin, but nice. I see NO evidence of a harsh cleaning that would keep it of a slab--the blue is a reflection of the cloth it is on, but why bother worrying about sending it in, as it is an extremely common date, in average uncirculated condition for a Morgan.
     
    Morgandude11, Mar 8, 2014
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  9. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Got it. Thanks. Makes sense.
     
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