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<p>[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 1999232, member: 58810"]So example. I was told by someone on ignore I can't do what I said is possible. So I wanted to post my recent purchase and let everyone look it over and tell me what they think.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358133[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I bought this coin. It is pcgs pr 65 rd. I spent this for it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358134[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is what similar <b>non toned </b>coins are selling at.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358135[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So excluding the $1410 example the trading range is $776 to $881. If you want to only compare pcgs to pcgs (which I kinda want to do) the trading range is $793-881. For reference although not really relevant grey is $1050.</p><p><br /></p><p>So now you say "the coin is no longer red it is red brown.it toned in the holder and is no longer in an accurate holder.". I understand this statement. But check this out. It didn't. Pcgs graded this coin red knowing what it looks like now, and are so impressed it is now a coinfact example coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358138[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So please judge me. I just bought the coin I would consider it part of my examples that coins already slabbed in pcgs and ngc holders are usually found cheaper online then at a show. It took me less then a half hour to find.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally I would never expect to see this coin under grey at a show and would expect retail to be around $1300-1500. Not only is it toned but pcgs uses it as a coinfact example coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>So either Stewart dandis is right and all I'm doing is bragging about how smart i am, (and I think it would be pretty smart to buy this coin at this price) or I'm trying to show my ideas about buying on line are accurate and I'm backing up my buying strategy ideas with examples and proof that someone with a lessor knowledge base of coins is able to still buy great coins at prices that would not be offered at shows by using online markets combined with pcgs and ngc certification and real time pricing information available to the online buyer. Every example of a great buy at a show was a dealer selling a coin they didn't know about (dealer error) or raw coin bought well. What a lot of customers are pointing out is at a coin show the pcgs and ngc material is usually at high retail, and this coin in a pcgs slab would not be found at a show as a coinfacts example coin selling under grey. When I say high retail I don't mean over grey. I mean over the "over grey" value the coin would probably sell for. Yes I know it is subjective the over over grey value but it seems rather universal that the retail buyers that post here have a consensus opinion that this is the case.</p><p><br /></p><p>So while my biggest critic of this buying strategy has me on ignore and I won't be hearing from him please look at my example, look at my proof and tell me am I on to something or did I overpay and I am just totally wrong about my online buying ideas.</p><p><br /></p><p>(Ps I used $90 eBay bucks so factor this however you want)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vegas Vic, post: 1999232, member: 58810"]So example. I was told by someone on ignore I can't do what I said is possible. So I wanted to post my recent purchase and let everyone look it over and tell me what they think. [ATTACH=full]358133[/ATTACH] I bought this coin. It is pcgs pr 65 rd. I spent this for it. [ATTACH=full]358134[/ATTACH] Here is what similar [B]non toned [/B]coins are selling at. [ATTACH=full]358135[/ATTACH] So excluding the $1410 example the trading range is $776 to $881. If you want to only compare pcgs to pcgs (which I kinda want to do) the trading range is $793-881. For reference although not really relevant grey is $1050. So now you say "the coin is no longer red it is red brown.it toned in the holder and is no longer in an accurate holder.". I understand this statement. But check this out. It didn't. Pcgs graded this coin red knowing what it looks like now, and are so impressed it is now a coinfact example coin. [ATTACH=full]358138[/ATTACH] So please judge me. I just bought the coin I would consider it part of my examples that coins already slabbed in pcgs and ngc holders are usually found cheaper online then at a show. It took me less then a half hour to find. Personally I would never expect to see this coin under grey at a show and would expect retail to be around $1300-1500. Not only is it toned but pcgs uses it as a coinfact example coin. So either Stewart dandis is right and all I'm doing is bragging about how smart i am, (and I think it would be pretty smart to buy this coin at this price) or I'm trying to show my ideas about buying on line are accurate and I'm backing up my buying strategy ideas with examples and proof that someone with a lessor knowledge base of coins is able to still buy great coins at prices that would not be offered at shows by using online markets combined with pcgs and ngc certification and real time pricing information available to the online buyer. Every example of a great buy at a show was a dealer selling a coin they didn't know about (dealer error) or raw coin bought well. What a lot of customers are pointing out is at a coin show the pcgs and ngc material is usually at high retail, and this coin in a pcgs slab would not be found at a show as a coinfacts example coin selling under grey. When I say high retail I don't mean over grey. I mean over the "over grey" value the coin would probably sell for. Yes I know it is subjective the over over grey value but it seems rather universal that the retail buyers that post here have a consensus opinion that this is the case. So while my biggest critic of this buying strategy has me on ignore and I won't be hearing from him please look at my example, look at my proof and tell me am I on to something or did I overpay and I am just totally wrong about my online buying ideas. (Ps I used $90 eBay bucks so factor this however you want)[/QUOTE]
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