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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vegas Vic, post: 1989118, member: 58810&quot;]So it looks like we need our own thread for this discussion. I&#039;ll start by resurrecting my deleted post.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Let&#039;s start by adding negotiations. I have never tried to negotiate for a tire.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, while some of the analysis is indeed off the table it still has to look appropriate for the grade. I don&#039;t just close my eyes and only see the label. Especially with market analysis math of value of toned coins. That is an art to itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>But more importantly I think of it like this. No matter how you evaluate a coin either you buy it or you don&#039;t. And either it is a good buy or not. Let&#039;s go back to our apparent favorite SQL example. I don&#039;t care how much skill or analysis it took to either agree or disagree with the grade. Was it a 55 or a true 58? You can use your coin skills all you want but how are you going to feel when I flash you my nice white problem free ms 63 slabbed coin that was $100 less? Going to grade my coin down to a 61? Go right ahead. Sometimes I personally think while grading skill can be very important in determining the worth of a coin that there are many times where I, the novice with excellent shopping skills, can run circles around the good grader. This example is a fantastic example of this. If the guy in the other thread had actually bought the au 1876s trade dollar for $850 that would have a great second example.</p><p>Welcome to the Information Age.</p><p><br /></p><p>Given my prior hobby of buying toned coins from eBay and selling them at shows for a slight but consistent profit I would argue that shopping skills are critical, and sometimes in today&#039;s world more valuable then grading can be with the crutch of tpg&#039;s. And also, given many of the coins I buy are toned that while I&#039;m not necessarily grading the coin to exact ms/pr grades that &quot;grading&quot; the value of the color is a significant skill in its own right that exceeds &quot;shopping&quot; skills.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coin for the thread. I felt that the most appropriate coin I would use would be my pcgs thick Norse ms 63 that I bought for $210 in front of the dealer selling the coin at the last show I was at for $310, while even using ebucks to do it. While I will agree with Doug&#039;s comment (from different conversation) that this does not prove anything but simply illustrates the point, the fact that a novice like me could do it shows you don&#039;t have to have a degree from cointalk university to be able to make good purchases.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]355862[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]355866[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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