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<p>[QUOTE="Burton Strauss III, post: 3005407, member: 59677"][USER=22377]@ddddd[/USER]: "Optimistically"? Nice word choice... As we all know, you can ASK anything you want on eBay. Doesn't count until you complete a sale...</p><p><br /></p><p>Back to our contest</p><p><br /></p><p>Up is an interesting item. I bought this in 2014.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>First</i>, it is a VAM discovery piece (not one of those VAMs worth a lot of money, but still a discovery piece) - a photo of the slab is shown on VAM world - and it's a VAM found in 2010, so this happened WELL after it was slabbed around 1987 or 1988: <a href="http://www.vamworld.com/1890-O+VAM-1F" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vamworld.com/1890-O+VAM-1F" rel="nofollow">http://www.vamworld.com/1890-O+VAM-1F</a></p><p><br /></p><p>(When I bought it, it had a little VAM 1F sticker - I was pretty shocked to see my slab)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Second</i>, this is a large photocert slab, and one carefully designed (IMHO) around the ACG Patent (<a href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US4878579" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US4878579" rel="nofollow">https://patents.google.com/patent/US4878579</a>), which claims a 3 compartment slab:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This slab design only has two interior retention zones, one for the coin and one for the photograph and certificate.</p><p><br /></p><p>According to USPTO records, the Accugrade patent was originally assigned to a Robert M Paul of Meadowbrook PA.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Third </i>INGS... a PA business search find a 1987 company registration with a Robert M Paul of Newtown PA as the President/Treasurer [Strangely listed as still active]. FWIW, both Paul addresses are residences and the two towns are about 13 miles apart. So maybe they didn't have to work around the ACG slab patent.</p><p><br /></p><p>SampleSlabs shows two INGS - <a href="http://www.sampleslabs.com/ings.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sampleslabs.com/ings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sampleslabs.com/ings.html</a> - black and gold names (I have examples of both, but no samples).</p><p><br /></p><p>Not a lot else is known about INGS.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Fourth</i>, value... the meat of our contest...</p><p><br /></p><p>An 1890O Morgan in MS63 is worth around $122 according to CDN's collector's price guide (see <a href="https://www.greysheet.com/coin-prices/item?id=7200&CatalogId=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greysheet.com/coin-prices/item?id=7200&CatalogId=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.greysheet.com/coin-prices/item?id=7200&CatalogId=1</a>), but auction sales run from $70 on up over the last 2 years. NumisMedia says $115 with no real change since 2010.</p><p><br /></p><p>So let's say it was worth ~115 in 2014...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]744465[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]744466[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Burton Strauss III, post: 3005407, member: 59677"][USER=22377]@ddddd[/USER]: "Optimistically"? Nice word choice... As we all know, you can ASK anything you want on eBay. Doesn't count until you complete a sale... Back to our contest Up is an interesting item. I bought this in 2014. [I]First[/I], it is a VAM discovery piece (not one of those VAMs worth a lot of money, but still a discovery piece) - a photo of the slab is shown on VAM world - and it's a VAM found in 2010, so this happened WELL after it was slabbed around 1987 or 1988: [url]http://www.vamworld.com/1890-O+VAM-1F[/url] (When I bought it, it had a little VAM 1F sticker - I was pretty shocked to see my slab) [I]Second[/I], this is a large photocert slab, and one carefully designed (IMHO) around the ACG Patent ([url]https://patents.google.com/patent/US4878579[/url]), which claims a 3 compartment slab: This slab design only has two interior retention zones, one for the coin and one for the photograph and certificate. According to USPTO records, the Accugrade patent was originally assigned to a Robert M Paul of Meadowbrook PA. [I]Third [/I]INGS... a PA business search find a 1987 company registration with a Robert M Paul of Newtown PA as the President/Treasurer [Strangely listed as still active]. FWIW, both Paul addresses are residences and the two towns are about 13 miles apart. So maybe they didn't have to work around the ACG slab patent. SampleSlabs shows two INGS - [url]http://www.sampleslabs.com/ings.html[/url] - black and gold names (I have examples of both, but no samples). Not a lot else is known about INGS. [I]Fourth[/I], value... the meat of our contest... An 1890O Morgan in MS63 is worth around $122 according to CDN's collector's price guide (see [url]https://www.greysheet.com/coin-prices/item?id=7200&CatalogId=1[/url]), but auction sales run from $70 on up over the last 2 years. NumisMedia says $115 with no real change since 2010. So let's say it was worth ~115 in 2014... [ATTACH=full]744465[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]744466[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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