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<p>[QUOTE="Pavlos, post: 7751981, member: 96635"]Thank you very much [USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It really is amazing that the seal can be traced back to 1 living individual back in the days, and not hundred years ago, but a thousand years and even more. It just tells us how sophisticated infrastructure and administration the Byzantine empire had, with all it's fancy titles. It really is magnificent. Thank you for your comment.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Very interesting seal [USER=79017]@Andres2[/USER], that indeed is a very unusual seal, most likely indeed intended for something else than documents.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER] for your comment and sharing your nice seals. Here is the proof that even with a seal without any iconography and partly visible text you can already figure out what the persons function was and his name etc. Very interesting.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you Sev! I saw that seal in your sale, very interesting and a nice piece. An Archbishop or Metropolitan I always find attractive, that is why I hope to obtain the seal of a patriarch somewhere in the future.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding your attribution, I agree with it, but not fully <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>What I noticed is the reverse, you think Κυρια means lady i.e. the virgin Mary here. Κυρια indeed means lady, or madam, but not for our Mother of God. We would call her: Δέσποινα, which also means lady, but more like the 'lady of the house'. She basically is, the “Lady” of the Christian Religion.</p><p>Or otherwise Mary is called: Θεοτόκε (God-bearer) / Μήτηρ Θεού (mother of God)</p><p><br /></p><p>Secondly, where is the letter for the word 'help'? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Thirdly, it is very rare that on the reverse the prayer is written, it is almost always on the obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>In other words, combine the two words of Κυρια and Κω and you get: Κυριακω i.e. Kyriakos. A very common Greek orthodox name, derived from Kyrios (lord), the name basically means 'holy to the lord'.</p><p><br /></p><p>So we have here: 'Kyriakos, Archbishop of Ephesos and Synkellos.'</p><p><br /></p><p>If you need help for seals in the future I can help you, just write me a message, I have some knowledge and I obviously speak the language. I also have a few Greek acquaintances as well who have all the reference books and even more knowledge than me. Do not hesitate![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pavlos, post: 7751981, member: 96635"]Thank you very much [USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER]! It really is amazing that the seal can be traced back to 1 living individual back in the days, and not hundred years ago, but a thousand years and even more. It just tells us how sophisticated infrastructure and administration the Byzantine empire had, with all it's fancy titles. It really is magnificent. Thank you for your comment. Very interesting seal [USER=79017]@Andres2[/USER], that indeed is a very unusual seal, most likely indeed intended for something else than documents. Thank you [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER] for your comment and sharing your nice seals. Here is the proof that even with a seal without any iconography and partly visible text you can already figure out what the persons function was and his name etc. Very interesting. Thank you Sev! I saw that seal in your sale, very interesting and a nice piece. An Archbishop or Metropolitan I always find attractive, that is why I hope to obtain the seal of a patriarch somewhere in the future. Regarding your attribution, I agree with it, but not fully :D. What I noticed is the reverse, you think Κυρια means lady i.e. the virgin Mary here. Κυρια indeed means lady, or madam, but not for our Mother of God. We would call her: Δέσποινα, which also means lady, but more like the 'lady of the house'. She basically is, the “Lady” of the Christian Religion. Or otherwise Mary is called: Θεοτόκε (God-bearer) / Μήτηρ Θεού (mother of God) Secondly, where is the letter for the word 'help'? :p Thirdly, it is very rare that on the reverse the prayer is written, it is almost always on the obverse. In other words, combine the two words of Κυρια and Κω and you get: Κυριακω i.e. Kyriakos. A very common Greek orthodox name, derived from Kyrios (lord), the name basically means 'holy to the lord'. So we have here: 'Kyriakos, Archbishop of Ephesos and Synkellos.' If you need help for seals in the future I can help you, just write me a message, I have some knowledge and I obviously speak the language. I also have a few Greek acquaintances as well who have all the reference books and even more knowledge than me. Do not hesitate![/QUOTE]
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