The hardest coin to grade

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  1. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I actually really like the design.
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The variability of Human Behavior is infinite
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 16, 2012
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  4. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    i hate licoln memorial cents! i always pitch them.
     
    coingeek12, Oct 16, 2012
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  5. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I can feel your hate. Give in to the dark side coingeek.
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  6. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    no never! u killed my father!
     
    coingeek12, Oct 16, 2012
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  7. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    circulated state quarters, because the relief is so low, I just can't tell much difference.
     
    Numis-addict, Oct 16, 2012
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  8. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I loved Lincoln too much to have killed him.
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  9. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    no! your supposed to say, "no i am your father."
    then i go "noooooooooOOOOOoooooooOOOo." and then i type *gets enraged an cuts off gun lawyers hand*
     
    coingeek12, Oct 16, 2012
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  10. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I thought about that, but at the last moment poetic license took over and I went full circle to you hating Lincoln, but he was your father, and you were upset that you thought I killed your father, who you loved, but still throw him away.

    Does that make a little sense?:smile
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  11. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    no, it was not like that at all, i dont hate lincoln, and i wasn't even thinking in that direction.....
     
    coingeek12, Oct 16, 2012
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  12. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    But, but, but you pitch Lincoln memorials. I prefer my wheats, but I don't pitch memorials.
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  13. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    i keep my weatys, pitch memorials.
     
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  14. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Now I understand. At least the misunderstanding was good foundation for comic relief in this thread.
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  15. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    we always need funny stuff on a serious thred.
     
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  16. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    That is why I like the $80/oz. silver thread. It can take a comical tangent at any moment and then come back to the serious.

    I also find old coppers like the large cents difficult to grade.
     
    lonegunlawyer, Oct 16, 2012
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  17. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I think that it is relative really. The coins you aren't used to grading seem more difficult. I don't grade silver roosies, wheats, and copper memorials because I don't care because I find these in rolls. I do find buffs hard to grade as well. I have an easier time grading Barber coins and V Nickels just because I read about grading them. I know I was having issues with IHCs especially the difference between VF and XF but think I have got that now. The coins with grades based on the words "Liberty" seem to be the easiest to me. I don't really understand about grading MS coins because that seems a lot of fuss over little differences.
     
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Think about it - what makes a coin hard to grade ? Various people will give various answers, but usually what drives their answer, the cause of their answer, is a lack of experience with that particular coin. But once you have the experience, with all coins, what then makes a coin hard to grade ?

    To answer that you have to define what criteria you use to grade a specific coin. There are 5 primary criteria - contact marks, hairlines, quality of luster, eye appeal, and wear. There are other criteria that must be considered also if you are going to grade properly, but as a general rule few people actually do consider them. Those things are - planchet quality, quality of strike, and how well centered the coin is.

    Now with each and every coin you grade all of these things can a different degree of importance. Example, with circ coins, in the lower circ grades quality of luster has no bearing because lower grade circ coins have no luster. As a general rule a coin of VF35 and below has no luster. But any coin XF40 and above should have at least some luster or it's really not XF. Anyway, you get the idea.

    So, what makes a coin hard to grade ? Simple answer to that is the design of the coin. Example, it's the design of the coin that makes the incuse gold hard to grade. So what coin has a design that makes it harder to grade than other coins ? Answer - the Washington quarter. The Washington quarter has a lack of design. There are virtually no fine details in the design of that coin. There are no fine lines in the hair or bust, there are no fine details in the feathers. All of the design details on that coin and rounded and smoothed thus making it very hard, harder than any other coin, to discern subtle differences between 1 coin and another.

    With all other coins there fine, intricate details in the design that you can look at to detect subtle differences of the various criteria or signs of wear. But the Washington has none. That is what makes the Washington quarter the hardest coin there is to grade.
     
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  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    incuse gold
     
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  20. petro89

    petro89 Member

    Different strokes for different folks. Peace dollars are the hardest for me.
     
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  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Ahmen Brother!
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 17, 2012
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