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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1425083, member: 68"]Coins from Hong Kong have been doing quite well in recent years too. Very few of these are very tough even in superb gem but none are extremely common. They've sat in dealer inventories and rolls for years because there was no demand. Now with demand increasing the pre-'71 moderns have been enjoying some pretty healthy annual gains. Even a few of the post-'71 issues are doing reasonably well. I like later issue cu/ ni in nice gem condition when it can be found at anything similar to market price. It's hard to believe that this stuff is really worth only peanuts if it's actually going to be collected. Mintages were in the 5 to 50 million range but circulation was very extensive. Generally there's little premium for lower mintages suggesting they are not actively collected and/ or they were saved in equal numbers. In this case I lean toward thinking they were saved in equal numbers since there are some "collector prices" in later issues which suggests there weren't very many saved. Even if I'm wrong and there are a million of everything, a million isn't very many for a market of this potential size. While the coins do come very nice, choice and superb Gems are still the exception and picking them up for a few dollars or less seems like a bargain. </p><p><br /></p><p>I like the older moderns but can never suggest someone buy something that has already had significant price gains. They're great to collect even though they are all short series. There are some varieties among these and I'm always tempted by extremely high grade when there's little or no premium. Now days most of these will cost 20 or $30 even with no premium at all. These older coins come nice as well though there tend to be more worn die strikes. </p><p><br /></p><p>There's a good chance the Chinese collectors will branch out into other coins as they become more sophisticated. They'll probably prefer Far-East and the like at least initially. This leads me to think in terms of Vietnan, Tibet, Nepalese, Soviet, North Korean and even Singapore coinage. This last one is a real darkhorse that will charge someday. This is the wealthiest country on earth and their coins are among the most attractive, tend to be well made, and were not saved extremely heavily. There are scarcer issues that seem to have eluded collectors (don't bet on this). Attrition is high. There probably won't be any or many truly rare Singaporean coins but numerous issues with fewer than 50,000 survivors in any grade with relatively few Uncs. Don't overpay for these. They are common now and there's little demand. This is the type of area I'd suggest newbies collect. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's a big world and the middle class is exploding in many places. While modern circulating rarities in the Chinese sphere are unusual there are some places that modern rarities will be the rule rather than the exception.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1425083, member: 68"]Coins from Hong Kong have been doing quite well in recent years too. Very few of these are very tough even in superb gem but none are extremely common. They've sat in dealer inventories and rolls for years because there was no demand. Now with demand increasing the pre-'71 moderns have been enjoying some pretty healthy annual gains. Even a few of the post-'71 issues are doing reasonably well. I like later issue cu/ ni in nice gem condition when it can be found at anything similar to market price. It's hard to believe that this stuff is really worth only peanuts if it's actually going to be collected. Mintages were in the 5 to 50 million range but circulation was very extensive. Generally there's little premium for lower mintages suggesting they are not actively collected and/ or they were saved in equal numbers. In this case I lean toward thinking they were saved in equal numbers since there are some "collector prices" in later issues which suggests there weren't very many saved. Even if I'm wrong and there are a million of everything, a million isn't very many for a market of this potential size. While the coins do come very nice, choice and superb Gems are still the exception and picking them up for a few dollars or less seems like a bargain. I like the older moderns but can never suggest someone buy something that has already had significant price gains. They're great to collect even though they are all short series. There are some varieties among these and I'm always tempted by extremely high grade when there's little or no premium. Now days most of these will cost 20 or $30 even with no premium at all. These older coins come nice as well though there tend to be more worn die strikes. There's a good chance the Chinese collectors will branch out into other coins as they become more sophisticated. They'll probably prefer Far-East and the like at least initially. This leads me to think in terms of Vietnan, Tibet, Nepalese, Soviet, North Korean and even Singapore coinage. This last one is a real darkhorse that will charge someday. This is the wealthiest country on earth and their coins are among the most attractive, tend to be well made, and were not saved extremely heavily. There are scarcer issues that seem to have eluded collectors (don't bet on this). Attrition is high. There probably won't be any or many truly rare Singaporean coins but numerous issues with fewer than 50,000 survivors in any grade with relatively few Uncs. Don't overpay for these. They are common now and there's little demand. This is the type of area I'd suggest newbies collect. It's a big world and the middle class is exploding in many places. While modern circulating rarities in the Chinese sphere are unusual there are some places that modern rarities will be the rule rather than the exception.[/QUOTE]
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