The grades are in!!!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Coinsandmedals, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    I decided to put my NGC registry award to good use back in February. Most of the coins I submitted in this batch were already in queue to be submitted, but a handful were "throw-ins," so to speak that I might not have got around to submitting. Before submission, I took pictures of about half of these coins. I have a running excel sheet with my grade estimates compared with the assigned grade, and this submission quickly showed me that I need to touch up. I tend to be conservative, but there was up to a 3-grade swing in comparison to my expectations. On a happy note, this is the first submission in which not a single coin graded lower than I had expected!!!

    I know a lot of us are working from home and may find some extra time on our hands, so I figured I would turn this into a GTG. I will post one coin a day, and everyone is welcome to post their guess. Once 24 hours have passed, I will post the final result as well as how I graded the coin as well as the next coin that I have images of. Okay, let's get this thing started!

    Line item 001: 1928 Ireland proof farthing
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That’s a proof? PF-55-58 for me, I guess.
     
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  4. Kentucky

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  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  6. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    '55.

    Not sure if the Euro folks do things the same as here in the 'States' regarding 'proof' but I ain't seeing any mirrored fields......
     
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  7. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    I uploaded the raw images and, for some reason, can not find the final versions. I made some quick adjustments with these images that might help out.
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Honestly if this is a proof it’s a pretty lackluster one
     
  9. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    @hotwheelsearl it is a proof. In so far as the series goes, I would disagree, and it seems as though NGC would as well. I am a bit curious as to where you and others think they see rub to denote the 55 guesstimates.
     
  10. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    PF 64. I think I read somewhere that the strings attaching to the harp is a weakly struck area and that area has some planchet roughness or something.
     
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  11. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    55, but I can see TPG going 58 easy.
     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I suppose the make proofs differently over there. To me, this looks like worn copper - I have several 1964 British half pennies that are mostly UNC, but have enough wear and oxidation to have low points shiny and high points as a duller brown
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    I think everyone is keying on the brown high points, as well as the duller/darker areas of the fields. Often, when grading copper coins from pictures, these are indicators that a coin is AU. I don't see any flattening on those points.

    The color change can also be affected by the way the coin was stored (in an envelope, in a cabinet, etc).
     
  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Reminds me of this one of mine which is AU-55 or so
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  15. Kentucky

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    Since "proof" is a method of striking/treatment, it would have to be a proof designation. When copper surfaces get old, they tone much more than silver, so on an old proof, the lack of a mirrored surface should not be an indicator.
     
  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Now thats a mouth full
     
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  17. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    I do not physically have these coins back in hand yet, so I am not able to post pictures of the labels, but I will do so once they come in . I also need to photograph a few as well because the original files are missing. I just realized that I could edit the cert verification pictures and use those.

    1928 Ireland Proof Farthing:

    My grade: PF-64 RB

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    This is the only coin on the submission that I got entirely correct.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2020
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  18. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    Up next.....

    1913 Great Britain Penny

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  19. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    coinsandmedals, can't wait to see the rest of what you submitted!
     
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  20. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That’s a pretty penny. 66*??
     
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  21. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Wow actually nailed one! I better stop while I am ahead!
     
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