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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 379013, member: 112"]As I said, I got the prices direct from Heritage - real, actual, realized auction prices. It's kind of hard to argue with those. And if PCGS got their data from the same place I did - I'd say their data is pretty good. It's also kind of hard to argue with the fact that the trends of the actual prices paid match the trends of the graph, which is what I claimed they would do. And it sure sounded to me like you claimed they would not. And when you say -   May I ask why the realized price numbers are going to match the chart and yet all earlier numbers are going to be wrong ? The logic of that escapes me. Now you stll wish to believe that the indexes and the graphs are bogus. OK, you can do that. But I have presented evidence, real fatcs, that they are not bogus. Nonetheless, I never expected you to change your mind in the face of something like facts. No, in the few hours I had this evening, I could not find any records going back much farther than 2001. Heritage has some records going back to 1994, but only for 1 or 2 of the grades and not for both coins. Now, just because Heritage doesn't have on-line records for realized auction prices going back later than 2001, that doesn't mean that such records don't exist. When you say - You are sadly mistaken. There are plenty of auction records going back to the 1950's and beyond, but you're not gonna find them on-line. And when you say it doesn't reflect lower end coins - what do you call F12 if that's not lower end coins ? And frankly, I'm not going to spend countless hours doing research to prove my point when you are still going to deny it no matter what I present as evidence. It seems pretty obvious to me that you are only going to believe what you want to believe.[/QUOTE]

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