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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 4674721, member: 19463&quot;]I have accepted the redating to Feb. 196 for several years now and see no reason not to push IMP VIII back with it.&nbsp; I am completely unschooled in what is to be considered for IMP VIIII but some early Parthian event seems reasonable.&nbsp; I suppose a coin count of elephants might suggest how long the type was used for each but I don&#039;t see that being useful in the question since we don&#039;t know how long after VIII the elephants were first issued or how long after VIIII they continued.&nbsp; I have a little trouble with the long issue of elephant types unless they referred to more than one set of games.&nbsp; I see no benefit in reminding people about the games from last year long after they were finished unless you were doing more games at that time.&nbsp; It is natural for people to ask &#039;what have you done for me lately&#039; and for rulers to advertise the present, ongoing generosity.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is dangerous to try to think like a Roman but I have trouble seeing how Septimius thought he benefited taking an IMP for Byzantium.&nbsp; Taking so long to put down this &#039;problem&#039; and admitting that there were still people supporting Pescennius that long after he was gone hardly seems like something to advertise with pride.&nbsp; I suppose it might serve to warn all cities against betting on the wrong horse but I would probably spin the history to draw attention to things everyone would agree were great accomplishments certainly including defeating Parthians.&nbsp; For that reason, I like your suggestin that VIIII was some unknown victory in Parthia rather than a long overdue clean-up of old business.&nbsp; I have never been interested in the history after the closing of the COS II mint(s) so any opinion I have is worthless. </p><p><br /></p><p>We see today people claiming that Septimius restored Antioch the favor of a mint stripping it from competing cities.&nbsp; If this were true, I would almost expect that there would have been a Restituo coin or some document/inscription honoring the emperor&#039;s benevolence.&nbsp; Weer I Septimius, I might have announced that Antioch was restored to favor on the request of his son(s) rather than just letting it go without notice.&nbsp; I see no way this question can be answered. </p><p><br /></p><p>For the record, I started believing in the idea of a travelling mint system that includes all the &#039;Old Style&#039; coins.&nbsp; I still lack being convinced as to where the New Style coins were made.&nbsp; Is there sufficient die evidence to suggest that they were all in one location?&nbsp; I was hoping to read all about this in your book.&nbsp; I stopped following the question in 2003 when I retired on fixed income and stopped chasing dies I might have a decade earlier so I probably missed anything you said in the first 4-5 years of Forvm.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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