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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 5436553, member: 91461"]Alrighty, I'm sneaking this one past the goalie by reasoning that it has an ancient goddess on the reverse... and last time I posted in world I got responses like never before... oh, wait. I got no response like ever before.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236494[/ATTACH] </p><p>And it has a pretty unique back story.</p><p>I went to go, socially distanced, outdoors and with mask, visit my brother today. While we were mid conversation he said, "By the way, I got you this."</p><p>And hands me:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236433[/ATTACH]</p><p>FRANCE, Premier Empire. Napoléon I. 1804-1814. AR Medal (42mm, 31.6). The Napoleonic Code. By Brenet. Denon, director. Dated L'An 12 (AD 1804). NAPOLEON EMPEREUR, Napoléon standing left, holding scroll / EN L'AN XII • LE CODE CIVIL EST DECRETÉ, Minerva standing right, holding long scepter and scroll. Bramsen 291</p><p><br /></p><p>"The coin is a medal that Napoleon made and then someone else turned into a keepsake."</p><p>It was his wife's grampy's from at least the 1970s. Their family has some blood relation to Napoléon. Before it was repurposed Bonaparte used to roll this coin between his fingers while enjoying a bump of whatever gave him the ability to sleep 4 hours a night... or less!</p><p>jk, about that last part.</p><p>I excitedly drove home like a safe but excited person</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236446[/ATTACH] </p><p>And found some answers and some more questions<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>The medal is celebrating/advertising Napoléon's Civil code that France still uses to this day!</p><p>"The Napoleonic Code (French: Code Napoléon, lit. "Code Napoleon"), officially the Civil Code of the French (French: Code civil des Français; simply referred to as Code civil) is the French civil code established under the French Consulate in 1804 and still in force, although frequently amended.[1]"</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a cherry one that sold for 400 euros last year, not too me:/ Just like mine signed by the designer Brenet Denon:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236452[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>My hypothesis was that it was cut in two and not two different coins soldered (though it would have been cool it'd have been mighty bulky). </p><p>With our example weighing 31.5. And the coins I found ranging from 26-36gr depending on the denomination. Despite the lighter weight I think it's the heaviest denomination by its 42 mm girth<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. The slight weight discrepancy being the wear and of course it being cut in half<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>But that's an assumption.</p><p>And what's up with Minerva, the goddess of battle being on the reverse??</p><p>Don't get me wrong. I'm still in love with Minerva. Even after the breakup<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>But why would a coin celebrating their new CIVIL CODE put the ultimate bad B on it? Protection??</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236490[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The inside is signed by the guy who turned it from medal to pocket piece... </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236453[/ATTACH] </p><p>(Frankie Carnagie??)</p><p>But who the heck is that?<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>Still trying to see if I can find info on him. He was talented. It's not easy cutting a coin in half, long ways! Led alone the cool grips he soldered on for ease of opening and the latch, etc</p><p><br /></p><p>Side note:</p><p>I also randomly came across this fun little pillbox a while ago, so it's kind of turning into a niche of mine. This coin is soldered to the top of the box and not split in two. Though it is a modern fouree (there are both AR and AE types. This was an AE that somebody, for a time, turned into an AR). [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER] has the real deal and it is a showstopper:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236472[/ATTACH] </p><p>And then inside is where Napoléon surely kept his "Emperors magic" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It actually smelled like perfume inside when I recieved it...(not signed<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie65" alt=":meh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1236473[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I would like to mention that I don't support the altering and vandalizing of most coins, especially ancient or historically important. But if it's been done already I'm not going to stop enjoying something that's cool. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, please let's see those repurposed coins, ANYTHING Napoleonic, modern with an ancient God or Goddess, answers to my many questions or whatever you think adds to the experience of all your CT homies </p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglUu7rOaMDvV15pylVp6iC2Wkkf7q2sy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglUu7rOaMDvV15pylVp6iC2Wkkf7q2sy" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglUu7rOaMDvV15pylVp6iC2Wkkf7q2sy</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 5436553, member: 91461"]Alrighty, I'm sneaking this one past the goalie by reasoning that it has an ancient goddess on the reverse... and last time I posted in world I got responses like never before... oh, wait. I got no response like ever before. [ATTACH=full]1236494[/ATTACH] And it has a pretty unique back story. I went to go, socially distanced, outdoors and with mask, visit my brother today. While we were mid conversation he said, "By the way, I got you this." And hands me: [ATTACH=full]1236433[/ATTACH] FRANCE, Premier Empire. Napoléon I. 1804-1814. AR Medal (42mm, 31.6). The Napoleonic Code. By Brenet. Denon, director. Dated L'An 12 (AD 1804). NAPOLEON EMPEREUR, Napoléon standing left, holding scroll / EN L'AN XII • LE CODE CIVIL EST DECRETÉ, Minerva standing right, holding long scepter and scroll. Bramsen 291 "The coin is a medal that Napoleon made and then someone else turned into a keepsake." It was his wife's grampy's from at least the 1970s. Their family has some blood relation to Napoléon. Before it was repurposed Bonaparte used to roll this coin between his fingers while enjoying a bump of whatever gave him the ability to sleep 4 hours a night... or less! jk, about that last part. I excitedly drove home like a safe but excited person [ATTACH=full]1236446[/ATTACH] And found some answers and some more questions:woot:. The medal is celebrating/advertising Napoléon's Civil code that France still uses to this day! "The Napoleonic Code (French: Code Napoléon, lit. "Code Napoleon"), officially the Civil Code of the French (French: Code civil des Français; simply referred to as Code civil) is the French civil code established under the French Consulate in 1804 and still in force, although frequently amended.[1]" Here's a cherry one that sold for 400 euros last year, not too me:/ Just like mine signed by the designer Brenet Denon: [ATTACH=full]1236452[/ATTACH] My hypothesis was that it was cut in two and not two different coins soldered (though it would have been cool it'd have been mighty bulky). With our example weighing 31.5. And the coins I found ranging from 26-36gr depending on the denomination. Despite the lighter weight I think it's the heaviest denomination by its 42 mm girth:cigar:. The slight weight discrepancy being the wear and of course it being cut in half:facepalm:. But that's an assumption. And what's up with Minerva, the goddess of battle being on the reverse?? Don't get me wrong. I'm still in love with Minerva. Even after the breakup:bucktooth: But why would a coin celebrating their new CIVIL CODE put the ultimate bad B on it? Protection?? [ATTACH=full]1236490[/ATTACH] The inside is signed by the guy who turned it from medal to pocket piece... [ATTACH=full]1236453[/ATTACH] (Frankie Carnagie??) But who the heck is that?:banghead: Still trying to see if I can find info on him. He was talented. It's not easy cutting a coin in half, long ways! Led alone the cool grips he soldered on for ease of opening and the latch, etc Side note: I also randomly came across this fun little pillbox a while ago, so it's kind of turning into a niche of mine. This coin is soldered to the top of the box and not split in two. Though it is a modern fouree (there are both AR and AE types. This was an AE that somebody, for a time, turned into an AR). [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER] has the real deal and it is a showstopper: [ATTACH=full]1236472[/ATTACH] And then inside is where Napoléon surely kept his "Emperors magic" :hilarious: It actually smelled like perfume inside when I recieved it...(not signed:meh:): [ATTACH=full]1236473[/ATTACH] I would like to mention that I don't support the altering and vandalizing of most coins, especially ancient or historically important. But if it's been done already I'm not going to stop enjoying something that's cool. So, please let's see those repurposed coins, ANYTHING Napoleonic, modern with an ancient God or Goddess, answers to my many questions or whatever you think adds to the experience of all your CT homies [URL]https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglUu7rOaMDvV15pylVp6iC2Wkkf7q2sy[/URL][/QUOTE]
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