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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;gbroke, post: 1558859, member: 22585&quot;]Hey everyone,</p><p>I thought I would update the kind folks of this forum on the great Flying Eagle debate from the other thread I posted.</p><p>I figured a new thread would be better. I want to thank everyone for their comments and opinions. It really is a fantastic educational experience and makes for a great read.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t216091/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t216091/">original thread</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the coin again:</p><p><img src="http://cdn8.sharemyco.in/shared_320eee0a902b328cb944510e0b69b1d6c650821249ba555.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://cdn2.sharemyco.in/shared_33f24eb2ff10951b4f2c4a875c3fd47df55081f38aca329.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>At lunch today, I took it to a local, very experienced dealer B&amp;M shop. I will paraphrase the best I can.</p><p><br /></p><p>After the counter person looked at it, it was time to call out the big boy from the back.</p><p>He took multiple lengthy looks at it as I waited in silence with my fingers crossed.</p><p>We then discussed the situation for awhile.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the opinions drawn from it by the dealer:</p><p><br /></p><p><u><b>Fake?</b></u></p><p>As 99% of you, and myself all agreed, it is <b>100% Genuine</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p><u><b>Polished?</b></u></p><p>I know it&#039;s very difficult to tell from still images, but as I tried to convey, both the obverse and reverse have gorgeous cartwheel luster without any breaks.</p><p>The dealer also agreed that it has cartwheel luster and a polishing would strip most of that, if not all of it, away.</p><p>However, as a disclaimer he said: &quot;It is possible the doctors are getting so good at it, that they may be able to reproduce the luster&quot;. </p><p>He sides to it not being polished.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>The color?</u></b></p><p>This was interesting. Although the toning raises some flags, he feels that the colors, the pattern, how they lay on the coin, and how they appear in hand are <b>NOT </b>what would expect to see from an AT coin.</p><p>So it was inconclusive, and therefore he feels NGC/PCGS would be cautious and bag it as questionable color. I can agree with that,although I am not 100% convinced. The only thing keeping me from screaming AT myself, are the greens. But that is a mute point. </p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>General Thoughts</u></b></p><p>The most significant concern from the dealer was the fact that it wasn&#039;t in a slab already. His thoughts were, it is just too nice if there wasn&#039;t a problem.</p><p>This is always debatable, especially for me being a raw collector. I have items, not in slabs, that are worth multiples of the value of this FE if it were in a 65 holder. </p><p>We both agreed it was a stunning coin with a fantastic strike and beautiful eye appeal.</p><p>When I asked what he felt the reason the TPG&#039;s would body-bag it, he had a hard time saying. <i>Possibly </i>altered surfaces, but most likely questionable color.</p><p>Was it worth what I paid? We also both agreed on this. For a purist, a dealer, or someone who tries to make money on coins, probably not.</p><p>However, for a collector like me, or any collector of raw FE&#039;s, it certainly is. It&#039;s a wonderful example and a nice piece of history.</p><p>You cannot put a value on a coin like this. It&#039;s worth what someone will pay and how much they like it.</p><p>Guess what? I like it a lot! Also, it wasn&#039;t <i>that </i>expensive. </p><p><br /></p><p><u><b>So now what?</b></u></p><p>At risk of being berated by some collectors, I have decided I am going to keep it. </p><p>Not because I disagree with the professionals and a lot of you, but for the following reasons: <ol> <li>I do not collect coins to impress anyone. To me, coins aren&#039;t about their value, potential value or rarity. They are about the passion and the pursuit of finding those coins that just give you enjoyment.Seems a lot of people forget that coin collecting is supposed to be a fun hobby for people like me. If I cared about investment I would stack silver and gold, or better yet, not be buying coins at all.</li> <li>This Flying Eagle has invoked many feelings among you folks, myself and other collectors. It has created a great conversation while at the same time giving me an education on the subject.</li> <li>It truly has magnificent eye appeal, doctored or not. It is something I will enjoy showing collectors and non-collectors alike.</li> <li>It will serve as a reminder to me as my collecting continues.</li> </ol><p>So, into the type set it goes for now. I will bring it with me to upcoming shows here in MI. I will love to hear the various opinions from different dealers.</p><p>Thanks again for all the comments, whether encouraging or discouraging. It was great to see a lively debate without anyone getting out of hand or bringing an attitude.</p><p><br /></p><p>-greg[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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