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<p>[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2985342, member: 87271"][USER=85830]@arashpour[/USER]: First of all, welcome to the forum! Nice to see someone getting into collecting ancient Chinese cash, I really think it is a somewhat underestimated are numismatically, at least here in the west. As you already said, the fakes are getting better in quality and thus harder to detect, and it takes years of practice to spot some of the better ones. As someone who has been specialising in late warring states spade coinage for more than a while now, I can’t say too much about the Eastern Han Wu-zhu and the Kai-yuan, but I am inclined to follow the judgement of [USER=75799]@Loong Siew[/USER] on these two; I too think these two are genuine.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second one, the spade, is right up my alley. And I hate to break it to you, but I am afraid it is indeed a fake. You bought this from the ebay-seller Best66666, right? This notorious seller has been selling these fakes for years now. They all have the same patina and the fat, clumsy characters. Rims are too thick and the calligraphy is way-off. Other than that, his fakes are quite sophisticated. The original type is extremely rare (even though Hartill rates it 8/16) and I have never seen a genuine one yet. Hartill 3.432, Zhou shi. I hope you can still get your money back, cause this one is a modern forgery I am afraid!</p><p><br /></p><p>Kind regards,</p><p><br /></p><p>Mika[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2985342, member: 87271"][USER=85830]@arashpour[/USER]: First of all, welcome to the forum! Nice to see someone getting into collecting ancient Chinese cash, I really think it is a somewhat underestimated are numismatically, at least here in the west. As you already said, the fakes are getting better in quality and thus harder to detect, and it takes years of practice to spot some of the better ones. As someone who has been specialising in late warring states spade coinage for more than a while now, I can’t say too much about the Eastern Han Wu-zhu and the Kai-yuan, but I am inclined to follow the judgement of [USER=75799]@Loong Siew[/USER] on these two; I too think these two are genuine. The second one, the spade, is right up my alley. And I hate to break it to you, but I am afraid it is indeed a fake. You bought this from the ebay-seller Best66666, right? This notorious seller has been selling these fakes for years now. They all have the same patina and the fat, clumsy characters. Rims are too thick and the calligraphy is way-off. Other than that, his fakes are quite sophisticated. The original type is extremely rare (even though Hartill rates it 8/16) and I have never seen a genuine one yet. Hartill 3.432, Zhou shi. I hope you can still get your money back, cause this one is a modern forgery I am afraid! Kind regards, Mika[/QUOTE]
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