The first coins of Vietnam

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Loong Siew, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. Justinokay

    Justinokay Member

    It is pretty rare for people to be interested in Vietnam cash coins these days since most cash coins found on the market are Nguyen Dynasty and are cheapie. Good thing I wasn’t the only one. I’m still saving up for a scarce Dai Tri Nguyen Bao on Dr. Allan Barker website.

    Here’s one of my more interesting coins of the Nguyen Dynasty. A poem cash coin from Minh Mang
    (Or Minh Menh)
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    Vietnam
    60 Van
    Obv: Minh Mang Thong Bao
    Rev: Dac Vi Dac Danh Dac Loc Dac Tho
    61.3 mm
    27.67 grams
     
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  3. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Nice piece @Justinokay .. i like the Vietnamese silver pieces more actually. It has a very unique design, doesnt use modern striking techniques like the Chinese silvers and are mostly rare.
     
  4. Justinokay

    Justinokay Member

    Thanks. Silver pieces are pretty rare these days even some slabbed ones can be fake due to the process of casting to produce these coins.
    Most of the silver pieces I found are either fake or in slabs and super over priced. I’ve been looking for an appropriately priced Minh Mang 7 Tien for a long time, if you see one give me a heads up.
     
  5. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    I have managed to collect the following 7 tiens. 1 I gotnit off Baldwin's of Hong Kong and another from a reliable dealer in Thailand. You are right about fake but reliable sources are utmost important for these. And a premium is definitely in order.. i recommend keeping an eye out in auctions. My numerous visits to Vietnam did not even managed to find a decent coin shop. I suspect most of these were movedout of the country by immigrants or the colonialists.

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  6. Justinokay

    Justinokay Member

    Both of these are stunning. Think the bottom one is year 14 or 1830 something. I do not know much about the top one but heard it is way scarce that the bottom one. I do agree with you that most coin shops over there are bad most are aimed at tourist/beginningers and everything is labeled “Very Rare”/ “High Grade”. There were a lot of decent stamp shops though. Also I did managed to find a few small silver ingots but I traded those off already. Thanks for the tip, I’ll take a look at some auction sites. I don't usually look on those sites since I usually don’t win the stuff
     
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  7. arashpour

    arashpour Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Loong Siew May I know what is the process of submission to GCBA or Huaxia for authentication? What is their website links. I appreciate your help
     
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  8. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately i never submitted myself so i don't know. Huaxia has a website but it is in Chinese.
     
  9. wafarin

    wafarin New Member

    Huaxia has a very unprofessional pathway to accept the coins. They use Wechat instead of email to communicate with their customers. I had a talk with Ha.com, and they could help to process the coin certification to Huaxia (Hongkong) for their items in the auction. But I did not find any website for Huaxia (Hongkong).
     
  10. htth5581

    htth5581 New Member

    The first 7 tien coin you posted is not listed in Krause catalogue. Is it in Schr. catalogue? Can you introduce it a little bit?
     
  11. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Hi..
    The reference Sch 187 var ; KM193...

    Regards
     
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  12. Muzyck

    Muzyck I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a biscuit today.

    Good to see this thread revived. I purchased this coin in a lot among some others that were no doubt forgeries. This one looked promising.

    Annam Lục phủ khổng tu, tam sự doãn trị obverse less 5.jpg
    Annam Lục phủ khổng tu, tam sự doãn trị reverse less 5.jpg
     
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  13. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member


    Looks fine in my opinion
     
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  14. Muzyck

    Muzyck I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a biscuit today.

    Thanks. I do like the silver pieces too. I have posted them in other threads but not here.

    Annam  Tien KM 403 obverse 40 pct light.jpg Annam  Tien KM 403 reverse 40 pct light.jpg

    This one is my only unslabbed. It was at a discount due to cleaning.

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    Annam 4 Tien Schroeder 351 rev B.jpg
     
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  15. Muzyck

    Muzyck I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a biscuit today.

    Two larger denominations

    7 Tien

    Annam 7 Tien 1834 obverse.jpg
    Annam 7 Tien 1834 reverse.jpg

    3 Tien

    Vietnam Annam Tu Duvc 3 Tien 848-83 rev plus 8.jpg
    Vietnam Annam Tu Duvc 3 Tien 848-83 obv plus 8.jpg
     
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  16. htth5581

    htth5581 New Member

    Thanks! KM193 says 38g, and the denomation is Lang. I checked through Krause catalogue, but cannot find a 7 Tien with Long Van on the reverse side. Can you show a picture from the Sch catalogue showing 187 var in 7 Tien and weight around 24g?
     
  17. htth5581

    htth5581 New Member

    Is this one the same as the first one?
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  18. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

  19. htth5581

    htth5581 New Member

    Have you got your one slabbed by pcgs or ngc?
     
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