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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24719273, member: 26430"]I just posted this one in another thread, but here's a "Caesar" a couple of generations before "the" Caesar. In fact, this one's even a "Julius Caesar" -- more specifically, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Julius_Caesar_(consul_90_BC)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Julius_Caesar_(consul_90_BC)" rel="nofollow">Lucius Julius Caesar (c. 134-87 BCE)</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>But that was before Caesar was a title, so it was just his name.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1581038[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>It didn't become a title until after his ... great-nephew (?) ... "the" <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar" rel="nofollow">Julius Caesar (100-44 BCE)</a> had taken over Rome:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1581039[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>One might say that "Caesar" started to become a title when it was adopted by Octavian/Augustus as his claim to power (well, Julius Caesar adopted Octavian/Augustus, who took his name). Technically, though, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)" rel="nofollow">it didn't become a legal title until 68 CE after the end of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty</a>, when Nero died. (Since it had to passed along to a non-heir.) So, I would say it was a process with some important intermediate steps.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1581040[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>As you seen on the reverse of Augustus' denarius, Caius and Lucius were "Caesares" too. But died before taking over the big show. (That was always kind of a pattern among the Roman rulers. They needed lots of backup heirs.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24719273, member: 26430"]I just posted this one in another thread, but here's a "Caesar" a couple of generations before "the" Caesar. In fact, this one's even a "Julius Caesar" -- more specifically, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Julius_Caesar_(consul_90_BC)']Lucius Julius Caesar (c. 134-87 BCE)[/URL]. But that was before Caesar was a title, so it was just his name. [ATTACH=full]1581038[/ATTACH] It didn't become a title until after his ... great-nephew (?) ... "the" [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar']Julius Caesar (100-44 BCE)[/URL] had taken over Rome: [ATTACH=full]1581039[/ATTACH] One might say that "Caesar" started to become a title when it was adopted by Octavian/Augustus as his claim to power (well, Julius Caesar adopted Octavian/Augustus, who took his name). Technically, though, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)']it didn't become a legal title until 68 CE after the end of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty[/URL], when Nero died. (Since it had to passed along to a non-heir.) So, I would say it was a process with some important intermediate steps. [ATTACH=full]1581040[/ATTACH] As you seen on the reverse of Augustus' denarius, Caius and Lucius were "Caesares" too. But died before taking over the big show. (That was always kind of a pattern among the Roman rulers. They needed lots of backup heirs.)[/QUOTE]
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