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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jack D. Young, post: 8504519, member: 93371&quot;]In my previous Coin Week article on these I cited the actual genuine source coin to create the dies for the fakes; the example has a couple of key “attribution” defects that should be unique only to this example, but were transferred into the false dies:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504150[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504151[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The article can be viewed at <a href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-a-family-of-struck-fake-large-cents/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-a-family-of-struck-fake-large-cents/" rel="nofollow">https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-a-family-of-struck-fake-large-cents/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I show several counterfeit examples of various dates attributed to this source die pairing including a friend’s “1824”; dies were created, and dates added to create the “family” of fakes:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504152[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>They also created counterfeit off-center errors based on the same N-5! My example:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504154[/ATTACH] </p><p>Mine was almost sold at a major coin show but was caught in time and forwarded to me! There was a “higher grade” example offered for sale by a major internet seller but was ended after being notified…</p><p><br /></p><p>I highlighted a couple of common marks between the two:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504156[/ATTACH] </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I did make an error in the article showing my 1827!!! As serious students/ collectors of the series know the 1833 N-5 and 1833 N-3 obverses and reverses look much alike, and I made a rookie mistake, as the obverse has the fake 1833 N-5 divot, but the reverse is from an 1833 N-3:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504157[/ATTACH] </p><p>Comparison image of the 1833 N-5 reverse of the genuine source coin on the left and a counterfeit 1833 N-3 reverse on the right show the differences:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504158[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And to make things even worse, they are also mixing and matching the dies, as they created this off-center error version dated 1827 as well but with the N-5 reverse…</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504159[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So, the counterfeiters are creating new die pairs, maybe to make this all the more difficult for collectors to discern “live or Memorex”!</p><p><br /></p><p>A recent 1826 large cent’s authenticity was just questioned in a post here (thanks [USER=121896]@Steven Shaw[/USER]) and it also appears to match the N-5/ N-3 counterfeit die pairing:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504160[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>These continue to get better and more deceptive to folks not well versed in the series!</p><p><br /></p><p>I actually added a couple examples to my collection recently including this “1833 N-5”:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1504162[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I reached my image limit- more to follow in comments<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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