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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 7928951, member: 19463&quot;]Good explanation with one minor correction.&nbsp; &#039;Augustus&#039; was not a name.&nbsp; The man Octavian took the title &#039;the revered one&#039; Augustus rather than &#039;king&#039; because that latter term was politically incorrect in the Roman mind.&nbsp; However calling him by his personal name simply was not done.&nbsp; He was most honored by &#039;Caesar&#039; since that showed acceptance of his position as heir to Julius.&nbsp; I am not sure when the fashion started requiring &#039;Augustus&#039; rather than &#039;Caesar&#039; but the pair together &quot;most revered of the Caesars&quot; seemed popular at times.&nbsp; You did not walk up to Antoninus Pius and say, &quot;Hi, Pi.&quot; This is common through history.&nbsp; Autograph collectors value pen on paper &#039;Roi&#039; which was the only signature require of the king of France.&nbsp; Even today you do not call the judge in court &quot;Judge Judy&quot; but formally, &quot;Your Honor&quot;.&nbsp; Caesar was a family name and carried honor as well but allowed use by the whole Imperial line (father and heirs) but only the top man was Augustus in addition to being Caesar.&nbsp; I never really understood why the whole female side of the family was Augusta rather than some feminized form of Caesar but it was their system and they did it their way.&nbsp; After the end of the Julio-Claudians who claimed to be descendants of Julius, we see different levels of using Caesar and Augustus.&nbsp; The famous story is where Antoninus Pius delayed accepting &#039;Augustus&#039; until the Senate agreed to the deification of Hadrian as he demanded.&nbsp; That gave us the coins of his not having Augustus and another series where Augustus in on the reverse but not obverse.&nbsp; </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1370602[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1370603[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Titles develop in a culture and people are careful to use the current fashion.&nbsp; It is our job to learn what was appropriate for each ruler. Today, calling a &quot;Mr. President&quot; by &quot;Your Excellency&quot; might not cost you your head but I suspect it would terminate your White House access credentials. </p><p><br /></p><p>Trivia:</p><p>Which emperor did not use Caesar and has very few coins with&nbsp; Augustus?&nbsp; The few with Augustus were from a branch mint and may show a failure of that city to understand what was to be done. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Vitellius styled himself as Imperator but not Caesar and Augustus.&nbsp; Those not familiar, might enjoy the Wikipedia article. (I prefer links to cut and paste!)</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitellius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitellius" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitellius</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1370604[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Vespasian restored the titles and set up the formal system of &#039;just Caesar&#039; for his sons while he was both Caesar and Augustus.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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