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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 7928828, member: 10461"]The oversimplistic way my first Ancients mentor taught it to me, regarding those titles, is this: think of the <i>Augustus</i> as the president. The ruler, in other words. Think of the <i>Caesar</i> as the vice-president. The heir apparent; the next in line.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, it's a silly and imperfect comparison, but it helped me to remember.</p><p><br /></p><p>These titles are confusing, since Caesar and Augustus were also the names/titles of those two particular individuals. It's only later on that they became titles referring to someone's <i>position</i>, rather than to any specific individual.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you like (again, an oversimplified way of putting it):</p><p><br /></p><p>Augustus = the reigning "monarch" (emperor, in the Roman context).</p><p><br /></p><p>Caesar = the "prince" (or one of them) who's in line for the throne next.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if you see a coin that is described as, for example, "Marcus Aurelius <i>as Caesar</i>", that doesn't mean that he bears any resemblance to Julius Caesar on the coin. It means the coin was struck when he had the <i>rank</i> of Caesar, and had not yet assumed the title of Augustus (full emperor).</p><p><br /></p><p>Similarly, “Marcus Aurelius <i>as Augustus</i>" would refer to a coin that was struck after Marcus Aurelius had assumed full imperial power and gained the <i>rank</i> of Augustus. In that context, it has nothing to do with the <i>man</i> called Augustus.</p><p><br /></p><p>Though since he was the first emperor, you could say Augustus (the man) was the first Augustus (the title).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 7928828, member: 10461"]The oversimplistic way my first Ancients mentor taught it to me, regarding those titles, is this: think of the [I]Augustus[/I] as the president. The ruler, in other words. Think of the [I]Caesar[/I] as the vice-president. The heir apparent; the next in line. Yes, it's a silly and imperfect comparison, but it helped me to remember. These titles are confusing, since Caesar and Augustus were also the names/titles of those two particular individuals. It's only later on that they became titles referring to someone's [I]position[/I], rather than to any specific individual. If you like (again, an oversimplified way of putting it): Augustus = the reigning "monarch" (emperor, in the Roman context). Caesar = the "prince" (or one of them) who's in line for the throne next. So if you see a coin that is described as, for example, "Marcus Aurelius [I]as Caesar[/I]", that doesn't mean that he bears any resemblance to Julius Caesar on the coin. It means the coin was struck when he had the [I]rank[/I] of Caesar, and had not yet assumed the title of Augustus (full emperor). Similarly, “Marcus Aurelius [I]as Augustus[/I]" would refer to a coin that was struck after Marcus Aurelius had assumed full imperial power and gained the [I]rank[/I] of Augustus. In that context, it has nothing to do with the [I]man[/I] called Augustus. Though since he was the first emperor, you could say Augustus (the man) was the first Augustus (the title).[/QUOTE]
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