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<p>[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 7963132, member: 84179"][USER=118293]@CoinJockey73[/USER] and [USER=115232]@SensibleSal66[/USER]</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll try to summarize as objectively as possible based on what<u> I recall</u> from a number of recent threads/posts by the OP. Also be aware that he has me on ignore, so he won't be able to respond to my comments. That's why I'm trying be objective and not editorialize. </p><p><br /></p><p>* The OP and his family had a collection stolen in the past.</p><p><br /></p><p>* He feels the NY City police were less than helpful.</p><p><br /></p><p>* He has been proposing that the <u>only</u> way to stop coin theft is eliminate all markets for stolen items.</p><p><br /></p><p>* He said that many/most dealers do not care if coins are stolen as long as they can make a profit and are a large part of the problem (my interpretation of his posts)</p><p><br /></p><p>* His proposal to fix the problem is for all coins to be traced/pedigreed through methods like AI technology. A dealer cannot purchase coins unless they have this traceability and the seller can prove they are the owner. He has not addressed the fesibility, costs, or management details nor if a system will even allow collectors to sell items without incredible amounts of bureaucracy and red tape.</p><p><br /></p><p>* Members have contributed other potential solutions such as personal security, storage methods, keeping your collecting interests private, legally possessing and carrying firearms, and others. He repeatedly discounts them and shouts them down and says they will not work (particularly personal firearms)</p><p><br /></p><p>* When told that some jurisdictions already have laws requiring ID checks, manditory hold times, and reporting to law enforcement when selling precious metals and similar items, he does not comment</p><p><br /></p><p>* If you disagree with him or push for data he labels you a troll or being pro criminal. Some very credible and experienced CT members have been labeled as trolls for disagreeing.</p><p><br /></p><p>* MY OPINION - He has alienated a lot of members by being incredibly narrow minded. His opinion is the only one that's right and if you have other thoughts, you're part of the problem. That's why you see all of the pushback as he continues to "prove" that his solution is the only solution and if you disagree, you're wrong</p><p><br /></p><p>Hopefully, that helps bring you up to speed. Please take the time to read his other posts and make your own judgement.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 7963132, member: 84179"][USER=118293]@CoinJockey73[/USER] and [USER=115232]@SensibleSal66[/USER] I'll try to summarize as objectively as possible based on what[U] I recall[/U] from a number of recent threads/posts by the OP. Also be aware that he has me on ignore, so he won't be able to respond to my comments. That's why I'm trying be objective and not editorialize. * The OP and his family had a collection stolen in the past. * He feels the NY City police were less than helpful. * He has been proposing that the [U]only[/U] way to stop coin theft is eliminate all markets for stolen items. * He said that many/most dealers do not care if coins are stolen as long as they can make a profit and are a large part of the problem (my interpretation of his posts) * His proposal to fix the problem is for all coins to be traced/pedigreed through methods like AI technology. A dealer cannot purchase coins unless they have this traceability and the seller can prove they are the owner. He has not addressed the fesibility, costs, or management details nor if a system will even allow collectors to sell items without incredible amounts of bureaucracy and red tape. * Members have contributed other potential solutions such as personal security, storage methods, keeping your collecting interests private, legally possessing and carrying firearms, and others. He repeatedly discounts them and shouts them down and says they will not work (particularly personal firearms) * When told that some jurisdictions already have laws requiring ID checks, manditory hold times, and reporting to law enforcement when selling precious metals and similar items, he does not comment * If you disagree with him or push for data he labels you a troll or being pro criminal. Some very credible and experienced CT members have been labeled as trolls for disagreeing. * MY OPINION - He has alienated a lot of members by being incredibly narrow minded. His opinion is the only one that's right and if you have other thoughts, you're part of the problem. That's why you see all of the pushback as he continues to "prove" that his solution is the only solution and if you disagree, you're wrong Hopefully, that helps bring you up to speed. Please take the time to read his other posts and make your own judgement.[/QUOTE]
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