The development of a patina: a provenanced coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roerbakmix, May 6, 2021.

  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Yesterday, this coin arrived from Paris:
    EARLY MEDIEVAL, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Sceatta (Series J, type 85), minted: Anglo-Saxon; 710-725, York
    Obv: Diademed head right, double strand pearl diadem
    Rev: A bird on a cross, pellets in field in front of bird and below horizontal bar on the cross; annulets at the ends of the horizontal arms, beaded inner circle
    Weight: 0.98g; Ø:10.8mm.

    I was able to track the provenance to 2014, which showed how the patina developed over the last seven years:
    Gallery 51 (May auction, lot 185, 30.05.2014)
    iNumis (Auction 42, lot 191, 05.06.2018)

    The dramatic blue colour, esp. on the obverse, made me a bit suspicious of artificial patination. However, on close inspection, minor dirt deposits are visible, showing the same vibrant colours underneath:

    This coin is an upgrade for this coin:

    Show me your coins with fabulous colours!
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    I have a few iridescent denarii of Faustina I.

    Faustina Sr CONCORDIA AVG no PP seated denarius.jpg Faustina Sr CONCORDIA AVG standing denarius long inscription.jpg Faustina Sr PIETATI AVG imitation denarius.jpg
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  4. Andres2

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  5. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    My Philetaerus is a bit green with envy (or maybe he is turning into the Hulk! )

  6. jdmKY

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  7. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    The light from ancient

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  8. Clavdivs

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  9. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    This coin was actually characterized by an "expert" auctioneer as an off-center strike which was not worthy of collecting. He then offered to consign it in his auction and advised me to buy a better example.


  10. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Supporter! Supporter

    The style, condition, and toning vastly outweigh the minor level of off-center in my eyes. Congratulations!
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  11. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Here are a few of my fav toned coins.
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  12. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Gorgeous! You can consign it to my collection if you ever tire of it. I'll pay fairly :)
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  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Lots of beautiful toning in this thread! :hungry:
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  14. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    The coin pictured below I won at a Roma auction. I removed the coin from the Roma slab & put it in a small cardboard box with 2 other coins that I intended to send to NGC for slabbing. I was under a lot of stress at the time & forgot about the 3 coins. Many months later I found the cardboard box & this is what the coin looked like many months later :wideyed:. Eventually it did go to NGC :happy:.

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    McAlee 667, 14.32 gm, 27 mm, 11h, obv..jpg
    McAlee 667, 14.32 gm, 27 mm, 11h, rev..jpg
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  15. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    This coin of Aurelian, 270-275, has a golden tone:


    The coin looks just like its photo on my screen.
  16. Andres2

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  17. robinjojo

    robinjojo Supporter! Supporter

    I guess my favorite ancient, in terms of bright toning, at least in part, along with a pleasing design and strike, would be my Syracuse tetradrachm of Agathocles.

    I've had this coin for decades, stored in a paper envelope and polyliner.

    D-Camera Syracuse tetradrachm Agathokles reshoot 317-310BC 17.0g  Berk 4-8-21.jpg

    Here's an owl that I have owned since the mid 1980's, the first one I ever purchased. This coin has been stored in a cotton-lined paper envelope. It has not been in contact with any sulfur that might be present in the paper, so it has acquired a basically even gold color with a little very dark blue here and there.

    D-Camera Athens tetradrachm, late transitional, first owl Harlan Berk 16.8g  4-6-21.jpg
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  18. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    A few colorful denarii...

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  19. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    robinjojo, That Sicilian Tet is a jewel, & always a treat to look at :happy:.
  20. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    Roerbamix, Great score & serious upgrade :cool:! Impressive engraving for such a tiny coin ;).
  21. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    That's a coin that tempts me to start collecting romans :woot:
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