The danger of staples in 2X2s

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  1. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Sorry about the scratches on the slab but that coin is outstanding!
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  3. erscolo

    erscolo Active Member

    I do not use 2x2 holders because of the staples. You tend to get what you pay for. Fortunately the proof coin can be re-slabbed for a price, an expensive lesson learned.
  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Here’s a case of do as I say, not as I do . . .

    Bring some oversized 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 flips to the show with you.

    When you buy coins in stapled holders, slide those holders into the oversized flips, and carry those in your pocket.

    The only reason I haven’t done that is I almost always have boxes with me at shows, and don’t need to do that.
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  5. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Ouch! I scratched a gold Indian and learned my lesson
  6. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Now that is genius!
  7. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Staples did a number on this better date Barber. Worst part it was my own doing!

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  8. never never buy chinese 2X2's on amazon or Ebay
  9. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    At least it was on the slab and not the coin.
  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

    I’ve seen too many staple scratches. I either put them in flips or flatten immediately
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That isn't damage, that is the edge of the "gasket" wrapping over the edge of the coin.
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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I posted this thread to give folks an idea of the danger of staples. Seems like a lot of images of 2X2s get posted that need to have the staples smashed down.
    I have found that staples can also put tiny holes in the mylar of a different holder that creates a nasty toned spot on the coin where the hole is.
    You will also see where the staples can create black spots around the rim of the coin even if you smash the staples down.
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  13. Preif18

    Preif18 New Member

    Thanks you learn something to think about when I buy coins
  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder

    does anyone have experience with the self adhesive 2x2 holders, such as from Lighthouse? I guess my concern would be whether there is off gassing from the adhesive.
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Not sure about the gassing, but I was looking through some that a dealer had. They were hard for me to hold and flip, kept slipping from my fingers.
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  16. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I use these for RB and Red copper and proof silver coins. The manufacturer says they are safe and I see no reason to doubt that. The adhesive should do a good job of sealing the coin from the atmosphere and its moisture, which is the major contributor to copper changing color while in the possession of a collector.

    The only thing I think you have to be careful about is the cardboard of these adhesive 2x2's is thinner than that of the standard, staple-closed type. As a result of being thinner the surfaces of the coin stand more proud of the carboard surface and are thus more susceptible to damage from stacking, sliding, and jostling even if the clear enclosure is not breached. There are multiple ways to prevent or mitigate the exposure that are too numerous to state here simply because how you deal with it is the result of how you are storing your coins.
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  17. Walkerfan

    Walkerfan Active Member

    My thoughts exactly.
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  18. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

  19. Derrick Combs

    Derrick Combs Active Member

    I decided to switch mine to coin capsules. Then I got small ziploc bags to put the capsule in. I write my notes, info on the ziploc. The capsules and ziploc are cheap compared to the cost of one damaged coin. Screenshot_20201206-084943_Gallery.jpg
  20. tibor

    tibor Well-Known Member

    Many times over the years I have suggested squeezing the staples
    with pliers when I see the problem in posts. A few times I got a mind
    your business response. I just use flips that are PVC free. They do get
    brittle after a while so I just replace them. Constant battle.
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