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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3183465, member: 85693"]Along the lines with Doug's musings on Alexandrian mint products being exported (or not), I was surprised a while back to read in a couple of online places that the Cappadocian drachms of Trajan were (possibly) minted in Rome for use out East. I didn't know a coin with Greek inscriptions would be minted in Rome for "export." But logistically it makes a lot of sense. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]820737[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Something else I've wondered about: a lot of denarii of Antoninus Pius, M. Aurelius, Verus, and Commodus (and their ladies) look "Eastern" or semi-Barbaric to me. The portraits have a wide side-view "Antioch eye," the lettering is a bit crude, etc. And yet they don't look full-blown "barbaric" to me. And the silver looks too good for a "limes" issue. I'm sure many of you on the Forum have an example or two. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is not a particularly great example, since the extensive wear & damage make it perhaps look cruder than it really is, but I had the photo at hand: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]820736[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Many eBay sellers from Serbia, the Ukraine, etc. sell these. I realize that "eBay" and "Bulgarian forgers" will immediately come to mind, raising the hackles of many on the Forum. But there are so many of these, in such a vast array of types, and with a great deal of what looks to be genuine wear, that I find these an odd thing to counterfeit. Some of the Ukrainian-Latvian sellers will even note if some of the coins they are selling are "billon" or "limes." Furthermore, I found a reference or two in more scholarly works (I found from fishing around Google Books excerpts - I don't have the references at hand now) note the huge number of Antonine silver coming from these areas in hoards. </p><p><br /></p><p>I wonder if there weren't some sort of (official? semi-official? Barbarian?) Balkan mint operating around that time, with local celators preparing the dies? This sort of set-up might also have something to do with the extensive "limes" coinage that provokes so much debate (and in the same general areas of Europe, I think). </p><p><br /></p><p>Let me hasten to add that I am not an expert, and this is just the idle speculations of a rank amateur.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3183465, member: 85693"]Along the lines with Doug's musings on Alexandrian mint products being exported (or not), I was surprised a while back to read in a couple of online places that the Cappadocian drachms of Trajan were (possibly) minted in Rome for use out East. I didn't know a coin with Greek inscriptions would be minted in Rome for "export." But logistically it makes a lot of sense. [ATTACH=full]820737[/ATTACH] Something else I've wondered about: a lot of denarii of Antoninus Pius, M. Aurelius, Verus, and Commodus (and their ladies) look "Eastern" or semi-Barbaric to me. The portraits have a wide side-view "Antioch eye," the lettering is a bit crude, etc. And yet they don't look full-blown "barbaric" to me. And the silver looks too good for a "limes" issue. I'm sure many of you on the Forum have an example or two. This is not a particularly great example, since the extensive wear & damage make it perhaps look cruder than it really is, but I had the photo at hand: [ATTACH=full]820736[/ATTACH] Many eBay sellers from Serbia, the Ukraine, etc. sell these. I realize that "eBay" and "Bulgarian forgers" will immediately come to mind, raising the hackles of many on the Forum. But there are so many of these, in such a vast array of types, and with a great deal of what looks to be genuine wear, that I find these an odd thing to counterfeit. Some of the Ukrainian-Latvian sellers will even note if some of the coins they are selling are "billon" or "limes." Furthermore, I found a reference or two in more scholarly works (I found from fishing around Google Books excerpts - I don't have the references at hand now) note the huge number of Antonine silver coming from these areas in hoards. I wonder if there weren't some sort of (official? semi-official? Barbarian?) Balkan mint operating around that time, with local celators preparing the dies? This sort of set-up might also have something to do with the extensive "limes" coinage that provokes so much debate (and in the same general areas of Europe, I think). Let me hasten to add that I am not an expert, and this is just the idle speculations of a rank amateur.[/QUOTE]
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