The Crown Jewel of My Eisenhower Dollar Registry Set... So Far.

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  1. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I recently acquired a 1971-D "Friendly Eagle"Eisenhower dollar (Type 1 Reverse) graded PCGS MS66 from legendary Ike collector Brian Vaile. What makes this coin particularly special is that it is a VEDS (Very Early Die State) specimen.

    The most interesting diagnostic feature (IMO), which proves the VEDS condition, is the presence of the re-entry vehicle (REV) at about the 10 o'clock position of Earth. This unique feature is found on no otherIke dollarsexcept the FEV. Being small and incused, it washed out fairly early in the die's life. Talk about a FIRST STRIKE! I have a FEV in MS65, and the REV is not present. It is even absent on one of Brian's other MS66 FEVs!

    In our correspondence, Brian Vaile told me that out of approximately 350 FEV he's found since its discovery, only six have achieved the MS66 grade, with this one being one of the top 3 VEDS specimens. The origin of the FEV is pretty neat too. Below is an excerpt taken from the Ike Group page:

    Denver was so eager to begin Ike production in July 1971 that it used eight older single chamber presses in the basement (at the time used for gold commerative production) for its first two or three weeks of 1971-D CB Ike production while the big twin-chamber Columbia presses were being readied upstairs. These first-struck Ikes, we believe, all had the FEV reverse. Our evidence? Several soft indicators and this important one: we have not found a single FEV with any signs of die-clash. The twin chamber Columbia presses had a high percentage of clashed dies but it’s an operating characteristic of the older single chamber presses to have very few clashed dies.

    Link to the FEV article published on the Ike Group website, which lists ALL the distinctive features:

    http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=216

    It just so happens that I also purchased a VEDS 1971-D Type 2 Reverse Ike (PCGS MS65) from Brian as well. I created my own side-by-side comparison images from their respective TrueView images with black arrows pointing to the distinct features. You'll notice that the Earth is more round on the FEV as well.

    1971-D FEV T1-T2 Reverse Comp1.jpg
    1971-D FEV T1-T2 Reverse Comp2.jpg
    1971-D FEV VEDS Eisenhower PCGS MS66 slab.jpg
    1971-D FEV VEDS Eisenhower PCGS MS66 TrueView.jpg

    I am over the moon to have this belong in my registry set. It's one of the few coins that will never be upgraded (thank goodness) as there are none in MS67, although two MS66+ examples exist, not that I could ever afford one in either of those grades anyway.
     
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  3. Oldrdawg

    Oldrdawg Active Member

    Fantastic piece. You must be very proud.
     
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  4. cwart

    cwart Senior Member

    Great Coin!!! Wish I had one... :)
     
  5. My young eyes dont see anything that could be described as being unique. I'm happy that you are happy though.
     
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  6. kkathyl0

    kkathyl0 Member

    Thank you Ike Skywalker for posting this, it has made it very clear to me what the difference is in looking at the Ike Coins. Great example and Great information.
     
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  7. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Very nice Ike. @19Lyds may appreciate it.
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Well-Known Member

    Very cool and congratulations!
     
  9. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Awesome Coin! @Ike Skywalker can you do some Guess the Grades with your Ikes? That would be fun.
     
  10. I DID cherrypick a FEV once but it didnt show the REV which is very cool imo. Been so long ago that i forgot what the diagnostics even were
     
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  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    I've found three or four 1971-D IKE FEVs "in the wild". Two are pretty nice, but not as nice as that one.

    I do question one thing about that IKE Group excerpt. What "gold commemoratives" would the Denver mint have been making in 1971 or before ?

    As far as I know, the only gold commemoratives that the Denver Mint has made were the 1984-D $10 gold Olympic coins and the rare 1976 Colorado Centennial gold medals.
     
  12. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Fun piece. Nice Newp.

    However, with regards to the REV, I HIGHLY doubt that it is designed to be a re-entry vehicle. The object in question appears to be rectangular, while the reentry vehicle (Command Module, CM) was cone shaped. Even if you're talking about the combined Command and Service Modules (CSM) both ends would be conical, one because it's the CM, and the other because it's a rocket engine. Also, needless to say, the scale of the spacecraft would be WILDLY off from the Earth.

    Given that I don't see that design on any other Ikes, my best guess is it's some sort of an engraving issue.

    Here's a picture of the Apollo 16 CSM pointing directly at you while orbiting the Moon.

    AS16-113-18289HR-Earth.jpg

    Here's the Apollo 17 CSM moving away from you while orbiting the Moon.
    A17CSM&TLhdCr.jpeg

    Here's a side view of the CSM.
    Unknown.jpeg
     
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  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Only 6 that "he" has found as the PCGS Populations currently stand at 33 coins.

    No doubt, it is an intriguing coin. This post made me check my MS66.
    RDV-006 Reverse with REV.jpg

    Yep, got an REV.
    IKE 1971-D RDV-006 FS-901 11319446 PCGS MS66 Coin Rev.jpg
     
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  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The REV is depicted more as a "swoosh" for the contrail instead of the actual re-entry vehicle @Skyman. Similar to whats on the Apollo 16 medal.
    image0292.jpg
     
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  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The absolute "best" strike I've ever seen on the RDV-006 was on an MS64 coin in an ICG Slab which was later crossed to a PCGS slab.

    IKE 1971-D RDV-006 1744260401 ICG MS64 Earth.jpg

    The island grouping was as clear as day at 7 islands.
     
  16. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's exactly what I meant when I said that. I wasn't referring to the total population. ;)

    Yep. Just because it's a lower grade doesn't mean it can't have a superior strike. It just didn't fare as well after it was struck.

    As 19Lyds pointed out, the design is actually the contrail of the REV. It's just easier to refer to it as the REV. ;)

    From the Ike Group link provided above:

    Capture_168.jpg
     
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  17. Cascade

    Cascade The Blind VAMmer

    Nice coin Darth. Don't you have a nightcrawler too? If you had to let one go sophies choice style would it be this one or the nightcrawler?
     
  18. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Dang, Cascade. That's a tough one. Yes, I do have a Nightcrawler, which I also purchased from Brian. I would probably let the Nightcrawler go because I think it would be easier to find another one of those. Finding another VEDS FEV would be a lot tougher, me thinks. Perhaps the ONLY reason I say this is because there is another Nightcrawler available on eBay right now.

    But then if I consider the extremely small population of Nightcrawlers I'm stuck wondering.... Hmmmm.
     
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  19. I gotta ask, what is this nightcrawler you speak of.??Never heard of it... Seems like a good variety the way you pose the question
     
  20. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Here is my Nightcrawler Ike (1971-S Proof). You can see what looks like a worm to the right of the eagle's left foot/claw. It is a "hubbed thru debris" error. The last time I checked the Ike Group data, there were approximately 15-20 known examples.

    IMG_6557.JPG
     
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  21. @Ike Skywalker is this a brown box ike?
    Ive had so many of these pass thru my hands & i wouldnt even notice that. Time 2 start looking for it thx !!
     
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