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<p>[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 2349505, member: 51347"]In a prior thread, linked below, a wonderful discussion and posting of denarii of the Social War was given. I admired the postings and commented that I was on the prowl... Well, my patience paid off as I have captured a Denarius from the Marsic Confederacy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Off the top of my head, the Social War was a political earthquake that shook the foundations of Rome and its relationship with its Italian Allies. As Rome had been warring, conquering, and incorporating Italian Tribes and Cities, Rome began amassing a small Republican Empire. Rome typically (and part of their political genius) wrote separate and distinct treaties with each of its conquered territories - or Allies. Generally, the treaties encumbered their Allies to taxation, trade agreements, land rights, as well as providing troops to Rome as needed for war. When Rome fielded a Legion, there was an Allied Legion beside it. That Allied Legion was outfitted, armed, and trained the same as the Roman Legion. Over time, the conquered Allies gained rights and was "incorporated" into the Roman Republican Empire.</p><p><br /></p><p>For many years in the Early Republic actually embraced populations that moved into their City and Territory. These migrations helped augment their population growth, manned their Legions, and supported their economy. A major "HOWEVER" loomed within these Allied relationships: Rome's aristocracy gained access and control of Allies' LAND due to their being conquered. This created enormous tension because of abuse and downright theft of property. Progressively over time, Rome's aristocracy blatantly abused confiscation of Allied properties for their own personal benefit. Many Allied populations were ejected from their farms, their homes, and many became destitute. Many Allied populations, in fact, migrated to Rome itself. However, those migrants did not hold Roman Citizenship.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 133 BCE saw an unusual site of an Ex-Consul (Aristocrat) Fulvius Flaccus be elected to office as a Tribune of the People along side Tiberius Gracchus. They pushed HARD for reform of the Land and Citizen laws for the Allied population in Roman Italy. In fact Fulvius Flaccus proposed an revolutionary concept of offering Roman CITIZENSHIP to Allied peoples. This was a thoroughly new and radical concept for the ancient world. However, and finally the Aristocracy had had ENOUGH. They did not want to give up their privileges and their legalized theft of Allied land... Several Senators banded together (so called Optimates) and their mob lynched Tiberius Gracchus...physically tearing him apart! Ten years later his younger brother, Gaius Gracchus tried the same reforms only to be voted out of the Tribune office after 2 terms. The Optimates won. HOWEVER, the deep-seated tensions remained...Land abuse, taxation, injustice, non-Citizenship to the Allies who fielded Legions side-by-side with the Roman Legions...</p><p><br /></p><p>Fast forward to 91 BCE (consider the MANY years of abuse for the Italians!), and the Allied Italian Tribes and Cities in Italy had had enough. At least twelve tribes from the Marsi and Samni Groups banded together as a Confederacy to fight for the rights of land and citizenship. Understand Rome had to fight against Allies who were outfitted, trained, and with leadership exactly like the Romans! Rome won but technically LOST this war... not by the battles, but by the problem festering throughout the Imperatorial period.</p><p><br /></p><p>I finally found a Denarius from from "The Other Side", represented and minted by this Allied Confederacy. Please also see the prior thread that offered gorgeous examples of the Social War Confederacy denarii.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-social-war-italian-bull-goring-a-roman-wolf.270756/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-social-war-italian-bull-goring-a-roman-wolf.270756/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-social-war-italian-bull-goring-a-roman-wolf.270756/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]478217[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]478218[/ATTACH]</p><p>Marsic Confederation / Italian Allies</p><p>Social War 90-88 BCE</p><p>AR Denarius</p><p>19x17.9mm, 3.7g</p><p>Anonymous Issue, Corfinium Mint</p><p>Obv: Italia head, l, ITALIA behind</p><p>Rev: Oath-taking scene with eight warriors, four on each side, pointing their swords towards a sacrificial pig, which is held by an attendant kneeling at the foot of a standard.</p><p>Comment: The reverse is based on the gold Stater and Half-Stater from the Second Punic War</p><p>Ref: Sear 227; SYD 621</p><p><br /></p><p>I understand the Social War Issues from the Allies are considered RARE.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>Please post your coins from the Social War, whether from ROME or the ALLIES!</i></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 2349505, member: 51347"]In a prior thread, linked below, a wonderful discussion and posting of denarii of the Social War was given. I admired the postings and commented that I was on the prowl... Well, my patience paid off as I have captured a Denarius from the Marsic Confederacy. Off the top of my head, the Social War was a political earthquake that shook the foundations of Rome and its relationship with its Italian Allies. As Rome had been warring, conquering, and incorporating Italian Tribes and Cities, Rome began amassing a small Republican Empire. Rome typically (and part of their political genius) wrote separate and distinct treaties with each of its conquered territories - or Allies. Generally, the treaties encumbered their Allies to taxation, trade agreements, land rights, as well as providing troops to Rome as needed for war. When Rome fielded a Legion, there was an Allied Legion beside it. That Allied Legion was outfitted, armed, and trained the same as the Roman Legion. Over time, the conquered Allies gained rights and was "incorporated" into the Roman Republican Empire. For many years in the Early Republic actually embraced populations that moved into their City and Territory. These migrations helped augment their population growth, manned their Legions, and supported their economy. A major "HOWEVER" loomed within these Allied relationships: Rome's aristocracy gained access and control of Allies' LAND due to their being conquered. This created enormous tension because of abuse and downright theft of property. Progressively over time, Rome's aristocracy blatantly abused confiscation of Allied properties for their own personal benefit. Many Allied populations were ejected from their farms, their homes, and many became destitute. Many Allied populations, in fact, migrated to Rome itself. However, those migrants did not hold Roman Citizenship. In 133 BCE saw an unusual site of an Ex-Consul (Aristocrat) Fulvius Flaccus be elected to office as a Tribune of the People along side Tiberius Gracchus. They pushed HARD for reform of the Land and Citizen laws for the Allied population in Roman Italy. In fact Fulvius Flaccus proposed an revolutionary concept of offering Roman CITIZENSHIP to Allied peoples. This was a thoroughly new and radical concept for the ancient world. However, and finally the Aristocracy had had ENOUGH. They did not want to give up their privileges and their legalized theft of Allied land... Several Senators banded together (so called Optimates) and their mob lynched Tiberius Gracchus...physically tearing him apart! Ten years later his younger brother, Gaius Gracchus tried the same reforms only to be voted out of the Tribune office after 2 terms. The Optimates won. HOWEVER, the deep-seated tensions remained...Land abuse, taxation, injustice, non-Citizenship to the Allies who fielded Legions side-by-side with the Roman Legions... Fast forward to 91 BCE (consider the MANY years of abuse for the Italians!), and the Allied Italian Tribes and Cities in Italy had had enough. At least twelve tribes from the Marsi and Samni Groups banded together as a Confederacy to fight for the rights of land and citizenship. Understand Rome had to fight against Allies who were outfitted, trained, and with leadership exactly like the Romans! Rome won but technically LOST this war... not by the battles, but by the problem festering throughout the Imperatorial period. I finally found a Denarius from from "The Other Side", represented and minted by this Allied Confederacy. Please also see the prior thread that offered gorgeous examples of the Social War Confederacy denarii. [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-social-war-italian-bull-goring-a-roman-wolf.270756/[/url] [ATTACH=full]478217[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]478218[/ATTACH] Marsic Confederation / Italian Allies Social War 90-88 BCE AR Denarius 19x17.9mm, 3.7g Anonymous Issue, Corfinium Mint Obv: Italia head, l, ITALIA behind Rev: Oath-taking scene with eight warriors, four on each side, pointing their swords towards a sacrificial pig, which is held by an attendant kneeling at the foot of a standard. Comment: The reverse is based on the gold Stater and Half-Stater from the Second Punic War Ref: Sear 227; SYD 621 I understand the Social War Issues from the Allies are considered RARE. [B][I]Please post your coins from the Social War, whether from ROME or the ALLIES![/I][/B][/QUOTE]
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