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<p>[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 2578653, member: 4298"]Well, it's very nice to see a topic related to french coinage. As you might guess I have a few to show....<span style="color: #0000ff"><b><font size="5">wanna see them ?</font></b></span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=8959]@Eduard[/USER], since you started with a Louis XVI, which is a good idea to introduce the subject because Louis XVI and the Revolution are related to Napoleon I° and allowed him to raise, I will do the same :</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0080-Louis_XVI_demi_Ecu.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Louis XVI (1774-1792) - Demi Ecu aux lauriers 1791 A </b> Atelier de Paris, 2° semestre de 1791 (.A)</p><p>LUD . XVI . D . G . FR . ET . NAV . REX ., buste habillé a gauche orné du cordon du Saint Esprit. Point sous le D de LUD</p><p>. SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM lyre 1791, ecu ovale couronné entre deux branches de laurier, .A sous l'ecu </p><p>Tranche inscrite : DOMINE SALVVM FAC REGEM</p><p>14.70 gr</p><p>Ref : Ciani # 2189</p><p><br /></p><p><i>This coin and the following three give a "shortcut" of how the person of the King was considered through the french revolution : on this one Louis XVI is monarch by Divine right "Ludovicus XVI Deo Gratia Fran. et Nav. Rex"</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0090-Louis_XVI_12D.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Constitution - 12 deniers 1791 A </b> Atelier de Paris (A)</p><p>LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS, buste drapé a gauche, A sous le buste</p><p>LA NATION LA LOI LE ROI rose 1791 . 3 . DELALIB . faisceau surmonté d'un bonnet phrygien entre deux branches de chêne</p><p>11.82 gr</p><p>Ref : Ciani # 2253</p><p><br /></p><p><i>We now have a King being on the same level as his subjects and the Law. He his king of the french instead of being king of France</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0100-Louis_XVI_30S.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Constitution - 30 sols 1792 I </b> Atelier de Limoges (I)</p><p>. LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS . a l'exergue 1792, buste drapé a gauche</p><p>REGNE DE LA LOI, le genie de la liberté a droite, gravant la CONSTITUTION. </p><p>Dans le champ 30 | SOLS . et I, a l'exergue L'AN 4 DE LA LIBERTE . en deux lignes </p><p>10.16 gr</p><p>Ref : Ciani # 2241</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Louis XVI is still there on the obverse, but the reverse says "the Law is now above all and everything"</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0110-Sol_bal.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Convention - Sol aux balances 1793 AA </b> Atelier de Metz (AA) refrappe</p><p>REPUBLIQUE FRANCOISE, la table de la loi, avec gravé LES HOMMES SONT EGAUX DEVANT LA LOI en cinq lignes, de part et d'autre une grappe de raisin et des epis de blé, a l'exergue L'AN II</p><p>LIBERTE EGALITE, balance surmontée d'un bonnet phrygien, entourée d'une couronne de chêne, au centre I . S a l'exergue AA 1793 en deux lignes</p><p>10.89 gr</p><p>Ref : Gadoury 2003 # 19</p><p><br /></p><p><i>The King is no more present (he's had been executed on jan 21st the same year), and "humans are equals towards Law"</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0120-5cent.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Republique - 5 centimes l'An 4 A </b> Atelier de Paris (A)</p><p>REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE, buste de la République a gauche, coiffée d'un bonnet phrygien</p><p>5 CENTIMES L'AN 4 . en trois lignes, a l'exergue A</p><p>4.82 gr</p><p>Ref : Le Franc VIII # 113/1</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0123-Consul_20Fs.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Bonaparte I° Consul - 20 francs or An 12 A </b> Atelier de Paris (A)</p><p>BONAPARTE PREMIER CONSUL, tête nue a gauche</p><p>REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE, couronne de lauriers entourant 20 FRANCS en deux lignes. A l'exergue . coq . AN 12. . A .</p><p>Tranche inscrite DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE</p><p>6.44 gr</p><p>Ref : Le Franc VIII # 510/2</p><p><br /></p><p><i>The revolution has ended, Bonaparte is soon becoming Napoleon I Empereur, as Octavian became Augustus (note the similarities on this portrait with those of Augustus on the "bull butting" denarii), but still unsure of what is going on. We see many contradictory messages for a laïque republic : a consul on obverse, a republic on reverse, a revolutionary calendar (An 12) and ... God save France on the edge...</i></p><p><i>Now you know why you find french people so romantic...</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0125-50c-Nap.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b> Napoleon I° Empereur - Demi Franc 1808 D </b> Atelier de Lyon (D)</p><p>NAPOLEON EMPEREUR ., tête lauree a droite</p><p>REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE ., couronne de laurier entourant DEMI FRANC en deux lignes, a l'exergue 1808 . D</p><p>Tranche lisse</p><p>2.48 gr</p><p>Ref : Le Franc VIII # 177/5</p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>Still the same confusion. : Emperor on the obverse, but Emperor of a republic...</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Q[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 2578653, member: 4298"]Well, it's very nice to see a topic related to french coinage. As you might guess I have a few to show....[COLOR=#0000ff][B][SIZE=5]wanna see them ?[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] ;) [USER=8959]@Eduard[/USER], since you started with a Louis XVI, which is a good idea to introduce the subject because Louis XVI and the Revolution are related to Napoleon I° and allowed him to raise, I will do the same : [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0080-Louis_XVI_demi_Ecu.jpg[/IMG] [B] Louis XVI (1774-1792) - Demi Ecu aux lauriers 1791 A [/B] Atelier de Paris, 2° semestre de 1791 (.A) LUD . XVI . D . G . FR . ET . NAV . REX ., buste habillé a gauche orné du cordon du Saint Esprit. Point sous le D de LUD . SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM lyre 1791, ecu ovale couronné entre deux branches de laurier, .A sous l'ecu Tranche inscrite : DOMINE SALVVM FAC REGEM 14.70 gr Ref : Ciani # 2189 [I]This coin and the following three give a "shortcut" of how the person of the King was considered through the french revolution : on this one Louis XVI is monarch by Divine right "Ludovicus XVI Deo Gratia Fran. et Nav. Rex"[/I] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0090-Louis_XVI_12D.jpg[/IMG] [B] Constitution - 12 deniers 1791 A [/B] Atelier de Paris (A) LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS, buste drapé a gauche, A sous le buste LA NATION LA LOI LE ROI rose 1791 . 3 . DELALIB . faisceau surmonté d'un bonnet phrygien entre deux branches de chêne 11.82 gr Ref : Ciani # 2253 [I]We now have a King being on the same level as his subjects and the Law. He his king of the french instead of being king of France[/I] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0100-Louis_XVI_30S.jpg[/IMG] [B] Constitution - 30 sols 1792 I [/B] Atelier de Limoges (I) . LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS . a l'exergue 1792, buste drapé a gauche REGNE DE LA LOI, le genie de la liberté a droite, gravant la CONSTITUTION. Dans le champ 30 | SOLS . et I, a l'exergue L'AN 4 DE LA LIBERTE . en deux lignes 10.16 gr Ref : Ciani # 2241 [I]Louis XVI is still there on the obverse, but the reverse says "the Law is now above all and everything"[/I] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0110-Sol_bal.jpg[/IMG] [B] Convention - Sol aux balances 1793 AA [/B] Atelier de Metz (AA) refrappe REPUBLIQUE FRANCOISE, la table de la loi, avec gravé LES HOMMES SONT EGAUX DEVANT LA LOI en cinq lignes, de part et d'autre une grappe de raisin et des epis de blé, a l'exergue L'AN II LIBERTE EGALITE, balance surmontée d'un bonnet phrygien, entourée d'une couronne de chêne, au centre I . S a l'exergue AA 1793 en deux lignes 10.89 gr Ref : Gadoury 2003 # 19 [I]The King is no more present (he's had been executed on jan 21st the same year), and "humans are equals towards Law"[/I] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0120-5cent.jpg[/IMG] [B] Republique - 5 centimes l'An 4 A [/B] Atelier de Paris (A) REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE, buste de la République a gauche, coiffée d'un bonnet phrygien 5 CENTIMES L'AN 4 . en trois lignes, a l'exergue A 4.82 gr Ref : Le Franc VIII # 113/1 [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0123-Consul_20Fs.jpg[/IMG] [B] Bonaparte I° Consul - 20 francs or An 12 A [/B] Atelier de Paris (A) BONAPARTE PREMIER CONSUL, tête nue a gauche REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE, couronne de lauriers entourant 20 FRANCS en deux lignes. A l'exergue . coq . AN 12. . A . Tranche inscrite DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE 6.44 gr Ref : Le Franc VIII # 510/2 [I]The revolution has ended, Bonaparte is soon becoming Napoleon I Empereur, as Octavian became Augustus (note the similarities on this portrait with those of Augustus on the "bull butting" denarii), but still unsure of what is going on. We see many contradictory messages for a laïque republic : a consul on obverse, a republic on reverse, a revolutionary calendar (An 12) and ... God save France on the edge... Now you know why you find french people so romantic...[/I] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0125-50c-Nap.jpg[/IMG] [B] Napoleon I° Empereur - Demi Franc 1808 D [/B] Atelier de Lyon (D) NAPOLEON EMPEREUR ., tête lauree a droite REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE ., couronne de laurier entourant DEMI FRANC en deux lignes, a l'exergue 1808 . D Tranche lisse 2.48 gr Ref : Le Franc VIII # 177/5 [I] Still the same confusion. : Emperor on the obverse, but Emperor of a republic...[/I] Q[/QUOTE]
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