I was wondering if anyone could help me understand how we can tell Cato's the eldest from Cato's the youngest coins. I was looking at wildwinds and it seemed to me that they had the exact same denarius and quinarius types. Am I missing something? Thank you all in advance for your answers!
If you look at the examples on CRRO, you can see that the legends are different - the younger Cato's coins include "PRO PR". http://numismatics.org/crro/results?q=fulltext:CATO ATB, Aidan.
Correct me if I am wrong here (there is a high chance of that!) - but I do not believe there are any coins struck under Cato the Elder. Cato the Younger - yes... (those featuring "Pro PR") Earlier coins struck with the name "Cato" are for some other unknown relative (?) as I do not think the dates line up with Cato the Elder's career... I tried to make mine fit - but couldn't.
that is my understanding also....'this coin is not what i thought it was when i bought it, nor is it what think it is now' is my old saying ..but i do have one Cato quinarius from the social war era...
Yes - that is a nice example. Mine looks like it endured more than just the Social War.... but it was super cheap... and they're kinda cool.
Cato the Elder was during the Second Punic War or the War with Hannibal. Marcus Porcius Cato (/ˈkeɪtoʊ/, 234 – 149 BC), also known as Cato the Censor (Latin: Cato Censorius), the Elder (Major) and the Wise (Sapiens), He died before his famous "Cartago Delenda Est" was carried out in 146 BCE. Here are my LATER Catos... WHEN GAIUS GRACHUS ELECTED TRIBUNE FIRST TIME RR Porcius Cato 123 BCE AR Den Roma X Victory Biga S 149 Cr 274-1 SOCIAL WAR RR AR Quinarius 89 BCE M Porcius Cato Liber Bacchus - Victory- Crawford 343-2. Sear 248 WILD-MAN CATO RR Porcius Cato AR Quinarius 89 BC Bacchus Liber Victory seated S 248 Cr 343-2
An IMITATIVE CATO... this one is out of control: Imitating Octavian-M. Porcius Cato AR quinarius 13.89 mm 1.29g imitating Octavian r blundered legend - Victory seated r patera Cr 343-462 R
Here is a fairly nice quinarius from 89 BC. The legens on the reverse reads "M CATO:" Roman Republic, moneyer: M. Cato, AR quinarius, 89 BC, Rome mint. Obv: M CATO; head of Liber r., wearing ivy-wreath; below, control mark (torch?). Rev: VICTRIX; Victory seated r., holding patera in r. hand and palm-branch over l. shoulder. 14mm, 2.12g. Ref: RRC 343/2b. This wretchedly worn coin came in a lot. Only a mother could love it in this state. Yet, you can still make out (in hand) that the legend reads "M CATO PRO PR", making it attributable to Cato Uticensis in 47/6 BC: Roman Republic, struck by Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis, AR quinarius, 47–46 BC, mint in Africa, probably Utica. Obv: Head of Liber r., wearing ivy-wreath; below, M CATO PRO PR. Rev: Victory seated r., holding patera hand and palm-branch; in exergue, [VICTRIX]. 14mm, 1.39g. Ref: RRC 462/2.
My younger Cato. Possibly the best centred example in the universe And my social war type. I like the rather crude portrait style.