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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2973409, member: 19463"]Could one of our legal professionals comment on this statement? Last I heard, the photograph of an object is considered a separate artistic property and has nothing to do with the age of the subject. Certainly there are many coin photos in the public domain but they got there through actions of their owners (the photographer, his employer or the person to whom he transferred rights) not by the age of the subject. It is very unlikely that anyone is going to come after you for stealing a coin photo but that does not mean you should not seek permission for use of such photos that have not been set free by their owners. </p><p><br /></p><p>When I saw this thread I thought it was going to cover Cavino's work in copying (improving as he saw it) ancient coins. These are now known as the Paduans. I do find it interesting that he viewed mechanically reproduced dies done by 'staff' superior to original artwork of a master. This attitude continues today with many artists' works being a product of a workshop system in which the 'name' artist rarely touches the final product. This was well pointed out out by a travelling exhibit of the sculptor Rodin who is most well known for his 'Thinker' which exists in 'originals' of several media and sizes produced, in some cases, by his shop before and after Rodin died. Certainly machine hubbed dies will enable an entire issue to be of consistently superior quality but they require a modern view of what is art and what is a production line craft. Applied across the board, we would have to accept a million prints and painting mill knock offs as superior to the originals that are now faded and restored to a level we who collect would never tolerate in our coins. The bottom line today is that an 'original' is whatever the artist declares it to be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2973409, member: 19463"]Could one of our legal professionals comment on this statement? Last I heard, the photograph of an object is considered a separate artistic property and has nothing to do with the age of the subject. Certainly there are many coin photos in the public domain but they got there through actions of their owners (the photographer, his employer or the person to whom he transferred rights) not by the age of the subject. It is very unlikely that anyone is going to come after you for stealing a coin photo but that does not mean you should not seek permission for use of such photos that have not been set free by their owners. When I saw this thread I thought it was going to cover Cavino's work in copying (improving as he saw it) ancient coins. These are now known as the Paduans. I do find it interesting that he viewed mechanically reproduced dies done by 'staff' superior to original artwork of a master. This attitude continues today with many artists' works being a product of a workshop system in which the 'name' artist rarely touches the final product. This was well pointed out out by a travelling exhibit of the sculptor Rodin who is most well known for his 'Thinker' which exists in 'originals' of several media and sizes produced, in some cases, by his shop before and after Rodin died. Certainly machine hubbed dies will enable an entire issue to be of consistently superior quality but they require a modern view of what is art and what is a production line craft. Applied across the board, we would have to accept a million prints and painting mill knock offs as superior to the originals that are now faded and restored to a level we who collect would never tolerate in our coins. The bottom line today is that an 'original' is whatever the artist declares it to be.[/QUOTE]
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