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<p>[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 8188736, member: 95174"]I love the time period it is only in the past 50 years that it has been seriously studied, that leaves much to be found out.</p><p>Your write up is a nice introduction but I must point you skipped the DOC division tetartera of the Constantinople issues and the Thessalonica and other issues. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is rarely noted in the coin world because our catalogs were written before DOC IV</p><p><br /></p><p>In DOC they tested the Constantinople issues and they contained silver from 2-4%, does not sound like much but the billion trachea were only 8%. Michael Hendy author of DOC IV retested the coins; however, this was originally proved by D.M. Metcalf in a metallurgy study.</p><p>In Grierson he did not think they were a denomination but ceremonial coinage because they were so rare in site finds.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Thessalonica issues do not contain any silver.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>. </b></p><p><br /></p><p>If Sear had been written after DOC it would have been included but it was written before. As for Grierson he noted the silver content but did not agree they were an active denomination just a ceremonial coin, <u>that includes your SBCV-1920 </u></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the silver average in DOC IV page 49 By DOC Type I will include the key for Sear numbers beneath it.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1433199[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Alexius 33 is SBCV-1920</p><p>Alexius 35 is SBCV- 1922</p><p>John II 12 is SBCV- 1945</p><p>Manuel 15 is SBCV- 1968</p><p>Manuel 16 is SBCV -1969</p><p>Manuel 17 is SBCV- 1970</p><p>Isaac II 4 is SBCV- 2004</p><p><br /></p><p>The two catalogs written after did not note this , CLBC and Sommer , Sommer did note certain ones because the silvering was intact. In other words, most examples we see today show no visual signs of silver or silvering but during their time of circulation that had a thin silver coat on them to differentiate the issues from the copper ones. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have one example in my collection with silvering mostly intact.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1433216[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>SBCV-1923 Alexius</p><p><br /></p><p>I started me Eastern Roman collection by collecting 12th century tetartera, I completed that part of the collection, and I am now try to complete all the official coinage of the century. I am getting close, after all, the hard part was the lower denominations.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 8188736, member: 95174"]I love the time period it is only in the past 50 years that it has been seriously studied, that leaves much to be found out. Your write up is a nice introduction but I must point you skipped the DOC division tetartera of the Constantinople issues and the Thessalonica and other issues. It is rarely noted in the coin world because our catalogs were written before DOC IV In DOC they tested the Constantinople issues and they contained silver from 2-4%, does not sound like much but the billion trachea were only 8%. Michael Hendy author of DOC IV retested the coins; however, this was originally proved by D.M. Metcalf in a metallurgy study. In Grierson he did not think they were a denomination but ceremonial coinage because they were so rare in site finds. The Thessalonica issues do not contain any silver. [B]. [/B] If Sear had been written after DOC it would have been included but it was written before. As for Grierson he noted the silver content but did not agree they were an active denomination just a ceremonial coin, [U]that includes your SBCV-1920 [/U] Here is the silver average in DOC IV page 49 By DOC Type I will include the key for Sear numbers beneath it. [ATTACH=full]1433199[/ATTACH] Alexius 33 is SBCV-1920 Alexius 35 is SBCV- 1922 John II 12 is SBCV- 1945 Manuel 15 is SBCV- 1968 Manuel 16 is SBCV -1969 Manuel 17 is SBCV- 1970 Isaac II 4 is SBCV- 2004 The two catalogs written after did not note this , CLBC and Sommer , Sommer did note certain ones because the silvering was intact. In other words, most examples we see today show no visual signs of silver or silvering but during their time of circulation that had a thin silver coat on them to differentiate the issues from the copper ones. I have one example in my collection with silvering mostly intact. [ATTACH=full]1433216[/ATTACH] SBCV-1923 Alexius I started me Eastern Roman collection by collecting 12th century tetartera, I completed that part of the collection, and I am now try to complete all the official coinage of the century. I am getting close, after all, the hard part was the lower denominations.[/QUOTE]
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