The Classification of the Anonymous Class B Follis of Romanus III

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  1. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Lately, there has been a ramp up in the interest in the ornamentation of the Anonymous Class A2 and A3 follis, but very little has been done with regards to the Class B follis. Among the seminal work in this regards is Orestes H. Zervos' The Substantive Varieties of Anonymous Folles of Class B as published in Nomosmatika Khronika No. 22/2003. Zervos identifies 8 types of ornamental differences in the Class B folles while purposely ignoring two sub-types that are commonly found.

    Zervos' classification is based on the total variations that were found during the excavation of Corinth. As such, some of the uncommon follis is assumed to be minted in provincial mints that might include Corinth itself.

    Zervos Type B-1

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having square in each arm, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in small letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    upload_2019-3-18_16-59-51.png


    Zervos Type B-2

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having [​IMG] in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in small letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    [​IMG]


    An extremely rare variation that I personally know of four specimens, plus the two mentioned by Zervos.


    Zervos Type B-3

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having [​IMG] with a central pellet in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in small letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    upload_2019-3-18_14-41-31.png

    Only one specimen was noted and I am skeptical about this one as I have seen follis of this type with only one arm having a [​IMG] with a central pellet. This seems to be an oddity of the common type below.
     
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  3. Quant.Geek

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    Zervos Type B-4a

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a square in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in small letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    [​IMG]


    Zervos Type B-4b

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a square in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    [​IMG]


    Zervos Type B-5

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a elliptical pattern with [​IMG] above and below in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

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    Seems to be an extremely rare variety and I have not see this outside of Zervos. Very peculiar...


    Zervos Type B-6


    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a [​IMG] or similar, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    no known image


    Zervos Type Bb

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a [​IMG] in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps



    Classified as an imitation from Southern Italy.

    If there are others, please let me know. As for Zervos-4b, there are two other sub-types that have dots on the four corners of the square, either as [​IMG] or floating separately. I am going to classify these as Zervos-4c and Zervos-4d.
     
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    Zervos Type B-4c (not classified, but mentioned in paper)

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a [​IMG] in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    4954043.jpg


    Zervos Type B-4d (not classified, but mentioned in paper)

    Obv: IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, with cross nimbus having a square with [​IMG] unattached to each corner in each arm and [​IMG] in each upper quarter, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised in blessing in sling of cloak, left hand holds book, with [​IMG] on cover, from beneath
    Rev: IS-XS ЬAS-ILЄ ЬAS-ILЄ in large letters to left and right above and below cross with dots at the ends, on three steps

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Quant.Geek

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    [​IMG] with a central pellet, but I don't know if I would classify this as a Zervos B-3 or a common Zervos B-4d. A better specimen would clarify the confusion, but its quite scarce or rare to find...

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  7. Quant.Geek

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    Another imitation that is different from the ones illustrated in DOC and Zervos:

    upload_2019-3-18_16-12-36.png
     
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  8. Quant.Geek

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    Plate coin for Zervos B-3 showing a clearer central pellet:

    Zervos-B-3a.jpg

    and the plate coin for Zervos Bb, an imitation. The above picture got lost during my edits:

    Zervos-Bb-a1.jpg
     
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  9. BenSi

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    Really ugly Picture, but this coin has a black patina so I lite it up for detail. This coin does not fir into any of the examples above, Note the dot on the cross but in the center and on the ends. The nimbus of the Christ Side has rectangles in it
    A6.jpg
     
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  10. David@PCC

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    I never pay attention to the nimbus ect, but are more interested in finding rare types i.e. class L, M, or N's.
    Here is a | ○ | blank | or | ○ | • |
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    And a B-3 without the center pellet in the square.
    b074.jpg

    Otherwise I have B-1, B-3, B-4, and imitations.
     
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  11. Quant.Geek

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    There has been two additional types that have been identified since I posted. Lets call this one Zervos-B7:

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    and one with corrupt legends Zervos-B4e:

    1028-1034 Anon B S 1823.jpg
     
  12. Quant.Geek

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    I tend to agree, but the minor variations are cheap to obtain . The B-2 type above was one that I have been searching for a while. Missed out on a Savoca Ebay auction a few months ago at it went for a dirt cheap price too. This one is the best of the known lots :D, even though I like the restrike from the paper:

    upload_2019-3-19_20-31-14.png
     
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  13. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    I would love to see a clear picture! I want to document all these variations and I am sure there are more...
     
  14. Quant.Geek

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    Found another type - Zervos-B8

    Zervos-B-9.jpg
     
  15. Quant.Geek

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    Going back to Zervos Type B-6 which isn't illustrated, @Valentinian sent me Morrisson's description of that coin with its ornaments:


    upload_2019-3-20_5-17-59.png

    That coin, I believe, is an example of this coin that was found during an excavation. I am still waiting for confirmation from the discovery team with a better image of the coin. I am also trying to reach out to Bibliothèque nationale de France where the coins of Morrisson are kept. I wonder if @Voulgaroktonou might help since he knows Morrisson ;):D

    upload_2019-3-20_5-19-26.png
     
  16. BenSi

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    f3.jpg
    This is the best I could do with this one Ram, Patina is super dark.

    Here is another I own but I believe it already fits above.
    f8.jpg
     
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