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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 7961489, member: 46237"]Ok, let me explain how eBay works a bit because there seems to be some confusion.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you click on contact seller on an auction - any auction - there is a section that clearly describes the process for making an offer on an auction where Make an Offer is not enabled.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here it is:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380136[/ATTACH]</p><p>eBay literally tells you to go ahead and message the seller with your best price.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now follow me here because once you have sent a seller a message on an auction, it enables another eBay feature called Private Offers.</p><p><br /></p><p>Read what eBay has to say about this in their own documentation:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1380135[/ATTACH]</p><p>So what does this all mean exactly? If you send a seller a message saying you're interested in buying out the item and you can agree on a price, the seller can then send a Private Offer for that price directly to you, and it will close the item. This is not illegal and it is not against eBay rules. eBay has explicitly designed their system to work this way to facilitate this type of transaction.</p><p><br /></p><p>The one thing you cannot do is do this on an auction <i>that has existing bids</i> which if you read my previous posts, is why I advocate for making an early <i>low</i> bid. When an auction has a bid it severely limits the options of the seller to close an auction early without violating eBay rules. There are still ways for them to do it without breaking rules that are in a grey area and eBay would more than likely be unable to prove any wrongdoing, but it forces the seller to essentially do something shady like cancel the auction and relist it or cancel existing bids. Once they have cancelled any bids, they are free to then send a Private Offer, but at least putting a bid on there makes it more difficult for them.</p><p><br /></p><p>So make no mistakes about it, you can absolutely communicate with a seller to close the item out early with a private offer to you, and it breaks no rules. As I said, if you really want to cherrypick an auction, you either need to do this yourself or put in a nominal early bid to prevent someone else from doing this. It's one or the other.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 7961489, member: 46237"]Ok, let me explain how eBay works a bit because there seems to be some confusion. If you click on contact seller on an auction - any auction - there is a section that clearly describes the process for making an offer on an auction where Make an Offer is not enabled. Here it is: [ATTACH=full]1380136[/ATTACH] eBay literally tells you to go ahead and message the seller with your best price. Now follow me here because once you have sent a seller a message on an auction, it enables another eBay feature called Private Offers. Read what eBay has to say about this in their own documentation: [ATTACH=full]1380135[/ATTACH] So what does this all mean exactly? If you send a seller a message saying you're interested in buying out the item and you can agree on a price, the seller can then send a Private Offer for that price directly to you, and it will close the item. This is not illegal and it is not against eBay rules. eBay has explicitly designed their system to work this way to facilitate this type of transaction. The one thing you cannot do is do this on an auction [I]that has existing bids[/I] which if you read my previous posts, is why I advocate for making an early [I]low[/I] bid. When an auction has a bid it severely limits the options of the seller to close an auction early without violating eBay rules. There are still ways for them to do it without breaking rules that are in a grey area and eBay would more than likely be unable to prove any wrongdoing, but it forces the seller to essentially do something shady like cancel the auction and relist it or cancel existing bids. Once they have cancelled any bids, they are free to then send a Private Offer, but at least putting a bid on there makes it more difficult for them. So make no mistakes about it, you can absolutely communicate with a seller to close the item out early with a private offer to you, and it breaks no rules. As I said, if you really want to cherrypick an auction, you either need to do this yourself or put in a nominal early bid to prevent someone else from doing this. It's one or the other.[/QUOTE]
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