The buffalo nickel; how un-politically correct was that?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by riff, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I, like Doug, have a unique perspective which I don't usually share - I am 9/32nd Cherokee - an unusual fraction since I get the ancestry from both parents I can remember as a kid in the 1970s when the AIM - American Indian Movement adopted the "Indian" from the nickel as one of their logos. Frankly it may not have been the case at the time the nickel was designed - but the fact remains that it's adoption later on by the AIM qualifies acceptance. In fact they use a variation of the 1970s era logo still, only adding feathers and colourising the design to yellow and red.

    Really? The whole American story, be it good, bad, or indifferent is about the evolution of Liberty and our understanding of it. I know for a fact there were forward thinking people even in the 19th century that saw what was going on and thought it was wrong. At least African Americans had a couple of subsequently meaningless constitutional amendments after the Civil War to look back on as giving them something on paper if not reality. Native Americans weren't even recognised as US citizens until 1926.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Man, there are WAY too many Cherokees around here for this little Creek boy to be comfortable. :)
     
  4. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    It's a coming out Pow Wow! :yes:
     
  5. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I think it came at a time of great realization. The reality after the fact that they destroyed a wild animal and destroyed native civilization. Humans are great at commemorating things in hindsight...not so great at thinking far enough ahead to prevent themselves from having tragedy to commemorate in the first place.
    Guy
     
  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    If Liberty existed at all it would mean that politicians were no longer able to steal production from the productive and give it to themselves or their pet rocks.
     
  7. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member


    I feel the motivation was to pay tribute to the Native Americans and the Buffalo.


    I do not feel it was politically incorrect at the time it was done.


    James Earle Fraser the artist that created the portraits, I feel was very empathetic to both Native Americans and the Bison. I'm 100% sure he would not offer his talents if he felt it was in bad taste to the Native Americans or the Bison.
     
  8. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    Right, I was wondering what if these things led to a pacified public, or docile, whatever, in regards to the political correctness or incorrectness.

    edit: after reading the rest of the thread I would like to add that my maternal great-grandfather was a full Cherokee Indian. One picture of him exists in the family. He had jet black hair, long and straight. The picture made him look like Johnny Cash in full black suit, vest, boots and hat. He was nicknamed, or perhaps named Pompee, probably not Pompeii. :)
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Pretty sure that was not the reason at all. Plain & simple it was done for money just like the fur trade was.

    It was also inevitable that it happened. Sooner or later the Buffalo would have been wiped out, or nearly so, by farmers & ranchers. Just like was almost done to wolves, grizzly bears & mountain lions. When it comes to affecting their livelihood people as a whole just do not like wild animals around.

    Or the native population when it comes to that. Any time anyplace was colonized the people doing the colonization worked at wiping out, or at the least displacing, the native population. And it was that way since the dawn of time. Still goes on today. Sadly, it seems to be human nature.
     
  10. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Doug would know...he was there. That buffalo skin hat and buffalo tooth ivory aren't fooling anyone.
    Guy
     
  11. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    News they never reported:

    June 26, 1876
    Little Bighorn

    Today the arrogant dolt George Armstrong Custer ignored reports from his scouts that a world of splatter was up yonder a spell and instead led his company into an all too obvious ambush. Your tax dollars at work pilgrims.

    In other late breaking news the federal government today honored one of it's treaties with the Lakota Nation.
     
  12. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye


    He knew Geronimo and Tatyanka Yotanka(Sitting Bull) - lucky old dog!
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Boy Howdy - gonna have to change my name to Rodney I think :rolleyes:
     
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