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<p>[QUOTE="Chris B, post: 4659949, member: 87179"]I have a passion for German States coinage. It started with coins that depicted the Wildman and just snowballed from there. The coinage of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel is what I find most appealing but by no means do I limit myself to pieces from this area. A common image is the leaping horse as depicted on the coin below. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149850[/ATTACH] </p><p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1695 2/3 Thaler (24 Mariengroschen)</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Horse leaping left, 2/3 in oval below</p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: Anton Ulrich</p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p><p><br /></p><p>I have heard some collectors refer to these as boring but some issues, especially the Thalers are anything but in my opinion. A well-struck high-grade example is particularly nice. I will be the first to admit that well-worn examples quickly loose there appeal. The design was used on denominations of Pfennig all the way up to multiple Thalers. </p><p><br /></p><p>This piece is well struck but the surfaces are pretty dull. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149851[/ATTACH] </p><p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Wolfenbuttle 1711 2/3 Thaler</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Crowned complex arms</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse Legend: GEORG: LUD: D o G o D o BR o & o LUN: S o R o I o ELECT:</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: Horse leaping left, value below</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse Legend: IN RECTO DECUS</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: George Ludwig</p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149852[/ATTACH] </p><p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1766 2/3 Thaler</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Armored draped bust right</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse Legend: CAROLVS D o G o DVX BR o ET o LVN o</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: Horse leaping left, value divides date below</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse Legend: NVNQVAM RETRORSVM</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: Karl I</p> <p style="text-align: center">Note: 2/3 Thaler Convention.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]1149853[/ATTACH] </p> <p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1789 2/3 Thaler (24 Mariengroschen)</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin is perplexing to me. Over 150 years after being minted it was basically turned in to a love token. It's the only thaler I have ever seen that this has been done to. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149858[/ATTACH] </p><p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Luneburg-Celle 1663 Thaler</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Helmeted arms</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse Legend: CHRISTIAN: LUDOVI: CUS D.G. DUX BR: ET LUNEBERG</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: Rearing horse left</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse Legend: SINCERE ET CONSTANTOR ANNO </p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Note: Dav. #6521.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149859[/ATTACH] </p><p style="text-align: center">Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1819 Pfenning</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Horse running left</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: Denomination, legend and date</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: Karl II</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Copper</p><p><br /></p><p>The last piece takes us away from Brunswick to Hannover. It is a common coin in uncommon condition. To me, this one is almost cartoonish.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149856[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">Hannover 1818 3 Mariengroschen</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Denomination, date, Horse leaping left</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse Legend: CONVENTIONSMUNZE.</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: C.H.H. below ledge</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: George III</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p> <p style="text-align: center">Fineness: 0.4370</p> <p style="text-align: center">Weight: 3.3400g</p><p><br /></p><p>Horses are depicted on coins all over the world from ancient times to the present day. They are a sign of wealth, refinement, and power. This simple design is unlike the coinage found in other areas. In most cases, the horse is mounted or depicted along with other items. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1149879[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">Saxony 1657 Thaler</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse: Elector wearing robe and electoral hat, carrying sword over right shoulder, on horseback to right, small oval shield of 2-fold arms of electoral and ducal Saxony below, date at end of legend, which begins at 2 o'clock</p> <p style="text-align: center">Obverse Legend: DEO ET - PATRIÆ</p> <p style="text-align: center">Reverse: 12-line inscription with full name and titles of elector</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Subject: Assumption of the Vicariat upon death of Emperor Ferdinand III</p> <p style="text-align: center">Ruler: Johann Georg II</p> <p style="text-align: center">Note: Ref. Dav. 7628. Clauss / Kahnt 491, snow 904, Davenport 7628, collection Merseburger 1151</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Composition: Silver</p><p><br /></p><p>Feel free to add on anything relevant or corrections. Does anyone know if there is any further significance to the simple horse design found on these coins? I have done some searching and found no definitive reasoning other than my assumptions above.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Chris B, post: 4659949, member: 87179"]I have a passion for German States coinage. It started with coins that depicted the Wildman and just snowballed from there. The coinage of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel is what I find most appealing but by no means do I limit myself to pieces from this area. A common image is the leaping horse as depicted on the coin below. [ATTACH=full]1149850[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1695 2/3 Thaler (24 Mariengroschen) Obverse: Horse leaping left, 2/3 in oval below Ruler: Anton Ulrich Composition: Silver[/CENTER] I have heard some collectors refer to these as boring but some issues, especially the Thalers are anything but in my opinion. A well-struck high-grade example is particularly nice. I will be the first to admit that well-worn examples quickly loose there appeal. The design was used on denominations of Pfennig all the way up to multiple Thalers. This piece is well struck but the surfaces are pretty dull. [ATTACH=full]1149851[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Brunswick-Wolfenbuttle 1711 2/3 Thaler Obverse: Crowned complex arms Obverse Legend: GEORG: LUD: D o G o D o BR o & o LUN: S o R o I o ELECT: Reverse: Horse leaping left, value below Reverse Legend: IN RECTO DECUS Ruler: George Ludwig Composition: Silver[/CENTER] [ATTACH=full]1149852[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1766 2/3 Thaler Obverse: Armored draped bust right Obverse Legend: CAROLVS D o G o DVX BR o ET o LVN o Reverse: Horse leaping left, value divides date below Reverse Legend: NVNQVAM RETRORSVM Ruler: Karl I Note: 2/3 Thaler Convention. Composition: Silver[/CENTER] [CENTER][ATTACH=full]1149853[/ATTACH] Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1789 2/3 Thaler (24 Mariengroschen)[/CENTER] This coin is perplexing to me. Over 150 years after being minted it was basically turned in to a love token. It's the only thaler I have ever seen that this has been done to. [ATTACH=full]1149858[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Brunswick-Luneburg-Celle 1663 Thaler Obverse: Helmeted arms Obverse Legend: CHRISTIAN: LUDOVI: CUS D.G. DUX BR: ET LUNEBERG Reverse: Rearing horse left Reverse Legend: SINCERE ET CONSTANTOR ANNO Note: Dav. #6521. Composition: Silver[/CENTER] [ATTACH=full]1149859[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel 1819 Pfenning Obverse: Horse running left Reverse: Denomination, legend and date Ruler: Karl II Composition: Copper[/CENTER] The last piece takes us away from Brunswick to Hannover. It is a common coin in uncommon condition. To me, this one is almost cartoonish. [ATTACH=full]1149856[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Hannover 1818 3 Mariengroschen Obverse: Denomination, date, Horse leaping left Obverse Legend: CONVENTIONSMUNZE. Reverse: C.H.H. below ledge Ruler: George III Composition: Silver Fineness: 0.4370 Weight: 3.3400g[/CENTER] Horses are depicted on coins all over the world from ancient times to the present day. They are a sign of wealth, refinement, and power. This simple design is unlike the coinage found in other areas. In most cases, the horse is mounted or depicted along with other items. [ATTACH=full]1149879[/ATTACH] [CENTER]Saxony 1657 Thaler Obverse: Elector wearing robe and electoral hat, carrying sword over right shoulder, on horseback to right, small oval shield of 2-fold arms of electoral and ducal Saxony below, date at end of legend, which begins at 2 o'clock Obverse Legend: DEO ET - PATRIÆ Reverse: 12-line inscription with full name and titles of elector Subject: Assumption of the Vicariat upon death of Emperor Ferdinand III Ruler: Johann Georg II Note: Ref. Dav. 7628. Clauss / Kahnt 491, snow 904, Davenport 7628, collection Merseburger 1151 Composition: Silver[/CENTER] Feel free to add on anything relevant or corrections. Does anyone know if there is any further significance to the simple horse design found on these coins? I have done some searching and found no definitive reasoning other than my assumptions above.[/QUOTE]
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